Old bone spurs was apparently quite the sports player in college. The bone spurs only emerged when he was eligible for Vietnam.

Double standard hypocrites stand for nothing

Hey man, he had bone spurs, you ableist (/s)

He lied?! I don't believe it!

We should start calling #2 borrowed valor and include children and other family members of veterans that brag about service despite not serving themselves too.

Edit: added a clarifying line that I am referring to ones that are doing the same thing as the army spouses. "I deserve a discount because my dad served in Vietnam!" people.

It should probably also be noted that the impetus for the accusation is a misquote of him in a video where he said he approves of common sense gun control legislation to ensure that "The weapons of war which I carried, in war is the only place they will be" he did say it a little fast so the publications quoting him dropped the very necessary comma in that sentence and claimed he was saying he carried them during a war, neglecting the fact that with the comma, it makes sense grammatically, and without the comma it doesn't at all, which is a mistake I doubt a teacher would make, even if they were a social studies teacher and not an english one.

I know a couple of guys who pretended to be astronauts in order to get a grilled cheese sandwich

We had a DARE officer in CT that apparently did that, "Officer Chuck" is all I had known him as in school. He apparently pretended to be a Navy Seal, but had fabricated that story, but I've never been able to find any details about it, I just remember being told about it 20+ years ago.

My mother-in-law was a career army staff sergeant who spent most of her working civilian life also with the army as the administrator of a reserve center.

She was in an MI (military intelligence) unit and was deployed to a condo in Virginia. She was never around any combat. She gave so much of her life to the army. If anyone ever fucking criticized her for not picking up a gun and shooting at an Iraqi, I'd give them a big piece of my mind.

I'm very anti-war, I marched against that war. But fuck anyone who criticizes someone's military service. It's not like it's an easy job (well, maybe it was for Vance, since mostly he was giving tours to reporters and writing press releases). My mother-in-law would never act like anyone who went through military service doesn't, at the very least, deserve the acknowledgement that they generally put in some sort of effort. I will criticize Vance's service only because he doesn't respect other veterans.

I like VPs who haven't gone to Iraq ok?

Iraq had no weapons of mass destruction when the US invaded. Iraq also wasn't involved in 9/11. But for how faulty the publicly given reasons for invading were pushed by the US, Saddam was truly one of the most evil men in power on Earth at the time and I have no qualms with the US having caused his downfall, arrest and eventual hanging by his countrymen.

And Walz protested the war once he was discharged, as he was in the right to do.

They are more fuckstains than shitstains. Their lives are a stain on the world created as a result of their parents fucking.

Walz was in the National Guard for 24 years and put in his resignation well before he learned his unit would be deployed to Iraq.

Vance - who is a Marine who served one tour as a journalist and never saw combat - attacked Walz for 'stolen valor' as he never saw combat.

It's massively hypocritical, has been tried before successfully against John Kerry, (Swiftboating was the term back then) and is coming from the VP of a candidate who avoided Vietnam due to crippling bone spurs, which should make it hard to do shit like play golf.

Both Vance and Walz are veterans. Vance has no grounds to attack Walz's service at all.

Tim Walz served 24 years in the Army National Guard. He served 20 years, got his retirement, and came back after 9/11 for 4 more years. His final rank was command sergeant major, but he wasn't in the position for long enough to retire from that position. He officially retired to go into politics. Months later his squad was told they were being deployed to Iraq.

The attacks have been:

Claiming Coast Guard isn't "real" service.

Harris's campaign erroneously listing his final rank as his retired rank.

Claiming he avoided deployment, despite serving for 24 years and not knowing that they were deploying at the time he filed to leave.

There are probably some other attacks. But those are the main ones I've seen.

This article summarizes the case. VP Walz left the ~~Marine Corps~~ National Guard after 24 years, and some people accuse him of leaving just before the iraq invasion.

If anyone here knows a veteran, make sure they understand that they will lose a lot of benefits if Project 2025 is implemented.