This doesn’t sound like an issue for those who use Fusion frequently, however you may want to find ways to get local files, just to be safe.
If you're a beginner: get used to a different software, because Autodesk is the king of enshittification. Your files will be hostage and then you're going to pay the subscription to keep them alive. Don't waste your precious time in mastering Autodesk applications, the more you wait the harder is the switch
It's just so rough to switch away from the one major CAD suite that doesn't tar and feather UX devs on sight. Seriously, I like solidworks and solidedge and etc etc, but holy cow those interfaces are just unpleasant to use if you haven't been steeped in them for the last 30 years. Even Rhino is more intuitive.
I found Onshape to be quite nice. It was relatively easy to translate skills from Fusion to it after a few YouTube videos.
How is this better? 
This and the online-only are the reasons I no longer use onshape. While I don’t mind for a majority of my stuff to be public it just doesn’t make sense for everything and then you can’t even use it e.g on longer train rides without internet.
Whilst this is fair criticism, I was responding to complaints about the UX in other CADs.
It is but you can't sell any models you design on the free version because "TeRmS oF sErViCe".
That’s on the free license. Fusion360, to which this thread is offering an alternative, has the same limitation.
I did a quasi-deep dive into licensing terms of the various suites. OnShape's free tier is particularly clumsy, and on a facial reading bars you from using your own designs commercially, but allows you (and literally every other user) free rein on other people's designs. It's quite odd and will probably need litigation to sort out. Then they have nothing between the free tier and the $1800/year tier.
Fusion gives you, IIRC, a grace zone of a thousand bucks of revenue a year before it counts as commercial and you have to get the $600/year paid plan, which seems suspiciously close to how much profit a no-overhead side hustle might pull from $1000 of sales. Solidworks hobbyist gives you $2k of profit grace per year, and when combined with a Titans of CNC discount, makes it a pretty good option for the "let me sell a couple of things on Etsy crowd," but it's a much bigger price jump than Fusion if you need to get a commercial license (basically about $2000 a year, I think... sensing a pattern here).
Solid Edge keeps it simple and just says that the free version is for non-commercial use only, though as a locally installed app I'm surprised it's not more popular.
I was continuing to struggle with FreeCAD, though it's getting better with every weekly release, and they have a little bit of outside money coming into the project now. Still, I "treated" myself to a $700 permanent Alibre license. I like the workflow and the focus on the workbenches I actually use, and after ten payments I'll be able to use this particular version however I like for as long as it runs. Not perfect, being closed source and Windows, but they're a responsive small company in a crowded space, so I don't think they're going to fuck over the paying customers too badly.
Damn them too? I guess I shouldn't be surprised they're both in the enshittification olympics. I moved away from F360 in favor on Onshape a while ago but started muddling my way through FreeCAD when I heard about Onshape.
give us good alternatives then. bonus for ones that run natively on linux. even bigger bonus if the workflow is actually intuitively usable.
FreeCAD, optionally with Ondsel.
You're missing the "actually intuitively usable" part.
Well, it is a lot better than it used to be.
Freecad is where it's at.
How’s Freecad these days? I avoided awhile ago it because it looked difficult to use but I think this might push me over to it
It does take a little work to get started especially if you haven't used any cad software before. But once you get the basics it's easy to search for different techniques to address any problems you encounter.
Sweet thank you!
And this is why all tools I use are opensource.
Hot take: that’s fair. They probably have thousands of users who made an account, drew a bunch of stuff and then abandoned it.
It’s not the best solution - that would be local offline storage - but it’s a fair change.
It's fair if you ignore that it's a problem of their own creation 😅
I do understand the point you're making though
This is my biggest gripe with Fusion 360 after the literal dozens of minutes using it. Why can't I just save my projects locally?
I’ve personally switched over to FreeCAD, because of Autodesk signin policy (not this one, fusion kept signing me out forcing me to keep having to log back in). I am excitingly waiting for the next major FreeCAD release since the daily builds are looking extremely promising.
I tried freecad and my god I have never in my life used a less intuitive application. OpenSCAD is more intuitive and theres an entire scripting language you have to learn for it
Why can’t I just save my projects locally?
Because then you wouldn't be Autodesk's bitch, and Autodesk really wants you to be their bitch.
Wait what?
So when I save my F3D files locally I don't get the whole project in the file?
You do. It's just more tedious, and you may not get some of the collaborative history like component comments and the like.
Pretty sure you can save them locally, it just requires extra clicks every time, which is super annoying.
Ok. I too hate that everything is directed to cloud and saving locally is treated like something strange that no one wants.
The day Autodesk removes the capability for local save ("export your files from cloud" in some Autodesk website is not the same as saving files directly from Fusion 360) is the day I leave Fusion 360.
But then there's fewer reasons to beg you to subscribe.
I have all the autodesk products available in software center from my job. Decided to give fusion a try, as it includes what was once eagle as well as enough 3d for my use... Online only? Where file? No offline stl because conversion is done online? GTFO! I'm back to using inventor and an ancient eagle version.
Dumb cloud-only stuff. Good that I use Onshape, where stuff like that could never happen!
...wait a minute, shit. It absolutely could and probably will. The owners certainly could restrict the free tier or ban my account if they want, and then everything is gone.
I absolutely hate that. I really like Onshape, because it works great, but we NEED an, at least decent, FOSS option. I don't necessarily need stuff like flow simulations, just good modeling, like in F360 or Onshape.
FreeCAD didn't work too for me. The UI was horrible, the workflow very unintuitive and wonky, and it crashed a lot, while not supporting basic functions.
There were a few alternatives around too, but they were in the very alpha stage and didn't work yet at the time I researched.
I really wish someone would create something from scratch, or fork something that already works, like Blender, and turns it into a CAD.
It's just sad to know all my hundreds of models in Onshape will get useless some time in the future.
There is cad plugins for blender. That said try FreeCAD again with the next major release. From the looks of FreeCAD daily, it’s really improved
Freecad link branch ?
Realthunder has been working with the main team to get his toponaming fix into mainline FreeCAD, and they've already adopted several of his UI improvements and settled on an assembly workbench. Version 1.0 should finally be released by the end of the year, and the weekly builds are promising. I don't know if it's quite there for me yet, but I'm hoping it will be by the time my paid-for Alibre is feeling long in the tooth, and any CAD DIY enthusiast would be wise to keep half an eye on FreeCAD.
Seriously give Ondsel a try if you haven't, has a different ui on top of freecad and a few workflow changes/sketch tools that make it less clunky. I use realthunder + modern ui for freecad and while yeah, there's clunk, it's useable and importantly, no limits on your files. Modern UI gives freecad a ribbon bar and some other enhancements that I like, swapping between benches took a bit to get used to, draft at least the hotkeys are kinda sorta intuitive and make the flow a lot nicer.
I switched cold turkey off of SW Maker for that reason, it limits where your files can be opened on that license, plus kept trying to save my files to a cloud storage by default. I've said it before, yeah freecad isn't perfect, has clunk, but it's provided to me free of charge with no limitations on its usage, I'll gladly accept that.
Modern ui ?
It's an add-on ModernUI I really like it, configurable as well, mainly use for ribbon bar and dockable panels
from the github, I use small icons with no labels (like the window in the middle), works well for me on an ultrawide.
I didn’t know about this. Thank you !
I've tried the modern UI plugin, it makes freecad crash every 15min or so on my computer.
https://github.com/aconz2/Fusion360Exporter lets you bulk export all of your projects to local storage.
Yeah, got the same email. Fortunately I already exported everything to .step files and am using Ondsel ES full-time for my designs.
Anyone know the best way to export my projects preferably without losing history and such?
Export it as a fusion file (*.f3d), you can reopen the file in Fusion and you won't loose anything
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