7 tanks, 7 downvotes -> The downvotes are from the tank drivers -> The tank drivers are libs -> libs are tankies
I have never seen more flawless logic comrade
You see, the purpose of the Western tanks wasn't to achieve anything on the battlefield anyway, it was to keep the crews safe so they can come back and downvote these posts
it's so funny to see lengths NAFO bots will go to turn everything into a victory.
a tank was supposed to reach x, but it got blown up halfway through? "But the crew (according to our unsubstantiated speculation) made it out! the mission was a total success!"
a pmc fielding an army of untrained convicts took over the most fortified city in europe after systematically dismantling the defenses put up by dozens of thousands of ukrainian servicemen? "we inflicted casualties! 1 to 182748 casualty rate favoring the defender because reddit says so! total win!"
the counteroffensive gets obliterated by KA-52 and fails to even get close to the first defense line? "probing attacks! We got their attention! Huge victory! Heil Hi... ehrm, Slava Ukraini!
Marvels of the Advanced Fascist weaponry.
Liberals so adamant on financing these weapons for fascists while this much money should be spent on improving their own financial conditions and quality of life.
Yepp. I fucking hate it how we created 100 billion for the military out of thin air, but do not have money for housing, feeding the poor and education.
We can't do this because of the poor Bundeshaushalt, we can't have that because the Bundeshaushalt must be balanced, but then it comes to the Bundeswehr and the US imperial managers and the whole rainbow of factions make blue skies rain.
Remind me again, how much did Putin's palace cost?
In what way are Dutch and Danish taxpayers being forced to fund said palace? The point of sicaniv's screenshot seems to me to be that western taxpayers are being given no choice but to fund a war they aren't involved in, after 10โ40 years of austerity and being told the state can't afford basic services, suddenly there's a bottomless well of cash for tanks.
What choice do Russians have in either paying for Putin's palace or dying with outdated equipment?
Suffice it to say, both sides claim they have no money for public services yet suddenly can finance war. The whole war industry is a scam, this has been obvious for more than 100 years now.
I also dislike the military-industrial complex. But that seems to be a different point to the one you made at first. Making it seem as though Russia is at war so that Putin can build a palace doesn't seem accurate.
Russia is not at war to glorify Putin. Although, his estimation does seem to be rising in the eyes of the global south because he is fighting the imperialists who have long oppressed them.
Again, the point you replied to seemed to be talking about indebting Dutch and Danish taxpayers to pay for a war they're not part of. Russia is at war, so it would make sense that Russians will be taxed to pay for it. I agree that this is tragic. Much better for that money to be spent on public services.
But in response to your reply: in general, Russians have very little choice because Russia was forced into a corner by NATO. I'm not sure what you mean by outdated equipment. Outdated by whose standards?
But that seems to be a different point to the one you made at first. Making it seem as though Russia is at war so that Putin can build a palace doesn't seem accurate.
That was not in any way the point I made. I merely called out Putin's squandering of public funds (for his own personal interest) to contrast against western squandering of public funds.
Russia is not at war to glorify Putin.
It's in Putin's political benefit:
Although, his estimation does seem to be rising in the eyes of the global south
As you have described.
Again, the point you replied to seemed to be talking about indebting Dutch and Danish taxpayers to pay for a war they're not part of. Russia is at war, so it would make sense that Russians will be taxed
Russia is only at war because Russia started a war. A war that the Russian people had no say - hell, they had no idea - in starting.
But in response to your reply: in general, Russians have very little choice because Russia was forced into a corner by NATO.
This is a false narrative. Russia did not have to start a war. There is no excuse here.
I'm not sure what you mean by outdated equipment. Outdated by whose standards?
Outdated by Russian standards. I think anyone would consider WW2 weapons and expired rations to be outdated.
I always forget history started in February 2022
Those outdated weapons can sure turn state-of-the-art NATO weapons into scrap metal. (See pic above).
redditors when they have to realize that the mighty ubermensch superior german engineering tanks get blown up by an atgm like literally every other tank
houses are generally significantly less expensive than tanks, but in this particular case you'll have to do the research yourself -- feel free to share your findings so we can all be aware of how many parts per million of the annual Russian budget was spent on Putin's house
Houses, sure. But we're talking about a mansion the size of a small town where they threw out all the marble they'd already isntalled because it was the wrong colour.
What is your source for that claim? That sounds rather cartoonish
Have you heard of Alexei Navalny?
He's the Juan Guaido of Russia.
Yes, but actually Jaun Guaido is the Jaun Guaido of Russia.
I have it on good authority that Juan Guaido has just been elected Tsar of Russia.
I think you forgot the part where Putin twirled his moustache and laughed manically while watching.
Nazi alert
Wasn't it the Nazis who hoarded public wealth for their own benefit?
Something which has never been known to happen in the modern west, specifically in the United States or Ukraine. Nope, not ever.
don't you know that Ukraine is actually a libsoc utopia?
I am actually hoping that part of libs will be converted to Dengism by lurking on Lemmygrad ๐
But don't you know that Ukraine is winning?
Suffered some morning brain damage reading some of the comments in there sheesh
how did these people even end up on here. Like, you won't find me hanging around in neonazi forums for sure. But that would be equivalent to what those people are doing.
Note how reddit invader cheers up the redditisation of lemmy.
Oh no! Anyway
That article starts from photo of Ukrainian soldiers firing a literal WW1 maxim machine gun while their PM talks about "modernisation" and the libs gloats around about modern AFU and weaponless Russians.
Remember that most of them actually believe ua pravda when it says that russians fight with shovels
They still are, every article from it is intensively upvoted on lemmy
I see 9(?) tanks. So how many are left? I have something like 100 leopards in my head?
14 newer ones and 88 previous model i think
Totally casual numbers btw
neeeein diese are ruski tanks you tanki dombass
As the news of the counteroffensive's failure started pouring in, there was some idiot, I want to say Pistorius but probably not him, saying the tanks weren't german, since they weren't operated in Germany by germans, and that they were instead Ukrainian.
I think it was Baerbock who said that. Idiotic mindset anyways, just idiotic.
"What is German? What is a tank?"
I am tank. Source: me and my tank, which is me.
No. You're a fridge.
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