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[–] LEDZeppelin@lemmy.world 279 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

DOJ are you listening? These are the same charges Hunter is being indicted for

[–] grayman@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Hunter is most likely going to walk for good reason. What he was charged with are unconditional laws. If he walks, so will Trump. And that's assuming you can pin Trump with unlawful use first.

DOJ knows they are getting crushed with Hunter. Even 2A orgs offered legal help to him. They know the laws can't be upheld by an honest judge. So why hit Trump with the same charges that they're losing their shit over with Hunter?

[–] kmkz_ninja@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

No, it isn't. Hunter is being charged with lying about drug use on a gun form. This would be Trump buying a gun with active indictments against him.

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world -2 points 2 years ago
[–] blanketswithsmallpox@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Do certain medications which are are strong as some and worse than many illegal disqualify someone from owning a firearm? Wasn't there pretty wide claims about Trump popping pills which would disqualify him from owning a firearm anyway?

PDF Warning: PERSONS WHO ARE UNLAWFUL USERS OF OR ADDICTED TO ANY CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE

[–] remotelove@lemmy.ca 0 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It's a question on a federal background check. For people who live in states where scheduled drugs are legal for recreation, it's a grey area. The state wouldn't care, but the feds do.

It's basically boils down to "gotcha" requirements. If you get investigated for federal crimes and also own firearms but live in a state where some scheduled drugs are legal that you use, the fed can still just flag any future checks and charge you with lying on any previous background checks.

I am not a fan of that kind of legal fuckery, especially if a person happens to be charged with a crime they didn't commit and still get investigated.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's worth noting that this kind of shit never happens and the only reason Hunter is being charged with it is because that's all they could make stick

[–] Maeve@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago

It happens. It’s just not usually news worthy. Low bar, but still.

[–] NeptuneOrbit@lemmy.world 68 points 2 years ago (4 children)

While Trump remains the frontrunner in the GOP race for the White House, he has also been indicted in four criminal cases this year, and therefore cannot purchase a gun under the law.

[–] HewlandRower@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

A federal judge in texas ruled last year that preventing people under indictment from purchasing firearms was unconstitutional based on the Supreme Court's Bruen decision, just FYI. So I don't think the situation is as cut and dry as it would have been just a couple years ago.

[–] NeptuneOrbit@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

I don't really think it's super worthwhile to spend a bunch of time discussing if and should about those cases here. The larger point is that he apparently tried to lie about his gun cred by pretending to buy a gun. And that of he had, he would have been committing the same crime they got Hunter with.

In other news, Bruen is terrible.

TIL…well good to know if I ever become indicted & feel the need to purchase a gun, which I’ve never done before.

[–] argo_yamato@lemm.ee 31 points 2 years ago (3 children)

So a spokesman posts on Twitter that he bought a gun and then someone has to delete the post and say it is not true? Sounds like amateur hour for his campaign but I thought he only hired the "best and brightest".

[–] partial_accumen@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago

I thought he only hired the “best and brightest”.

"they're not sending their best"

"And some, I assume, are good people"

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 14 points 2 years ago

Turns out the best and the brightest insist on being paid.

[–] macrocephalic@lemmy.world 8 points 2 years ago

There's more evidence that Trump makes bad hiring decisions than there's evidence for gravity.

[–] nga105@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Wait, I'm still catching up. Why would it have been illegal?

[–] Dkarma@lemmy.world 22 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He doesn't live in that state.

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 4 points 2 years ago

This is the reason.

[–] Chainweasel@lemmy.world 10 points 2 years ago (1 children)

He's been indicted on felony charges, felons can't own guns.

[–] WoahWoah@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

He's not a felon (yet). Does that law apply to indictments?

Edit: No, it doesn't:

https://www.texastribune.org/2022/09/19/second-amendment-texas-case-buy-guns-felony-indictment/

[–] TheJims@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago (1 children)

People spend money on this abomination

[–] Maeve@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago

Holy everything messed up.

[–] Ulrich_the_Old@lemmy.ca 8 points 2 years ago

Lying liar says what?

[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I can't wait til he snorts a ton of coke he's next debate so any one that's ever done the drug can pretend he was totally sober, again.

[–] be_excellent_to_each_other@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Woah woah - as someone who has never done cocaine, is that why he was so nuts (even for him) in the first presidential debate? I've been wondering how anyone could have witnessed that and still voted for him, but it never clicked for me that he might be on something.

[–] Maeve@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago

“ I've been wondering how anyone could have witnessed that and still voted for him, but it never clicked for me that he might be on something.”

That’s cause you’re a SINNER, not a GOOD CHRISTIAN!

[–] Maeve@kbin.social -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Plot twist: he runs out/spills his supply, they run to the nearest corner and it’s fent laced.

[–] blindbunny@lemmy.ml -1 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Spends the rest of the debate walking from his podium to the corner. You know just in case he sees any coke in the corner.

[–] aseriesoftubes@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The law only applies to brown people under indictment who want to purchase firearms, not ~~white~~ orange ones.

[–] FartsWithAnAccent@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

He really wants to make sure nobody breaks his record as most indicted president of all time I guess...