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submitted 1 month ago by FlyingSquid@lemmy.world to c/news@lemmy.world

“The American media totally ignored this stuff until Donald Trump and I started talking about cat memes," Sen. Vance said. "If I have to create stories so that the American media actually pays attention to the suffering of the American people, then that's what I'm going to do."

This is what is known as "pious fraud."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pious_fraud

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[-] sndmn@lemmy.ca 45 points 1 month ago

Why can nobody call them what they are? Lies. Not "claims" or "mis-truths" or some other less accurate alternative word for the lies they spew?

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

A lie requires intent. Without proof of intent, they will lose a libel suit.

In this case, since Vance has admitted he knew it was false, I think they have a defense, but they're probably just afraid of getting sued at all.

[-] lolcatnip@reddthat.com 10 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

So Vance can defame an entire community with no consequences but a newspaper talking about him admitting to lying can say he lied?

[-] catloaf@lemm.ee 2 points 1 month ago

It gets tricky when you're generalizing a community. He knows this, which is why it's phrased a certain way. People of that community must have standing, that is, they must show that they were harmed, and that harm was a result of his statements.

If a bunch of them get together and say "hey when you said that, we lost money in our businesses, or we were turned down for a job/loan/home", or have a community org willing to sue for that reason, then it could happen. But that takes time and effort that most people don't want to spend, so they continue to get away with it.

[-] SeaJ@lemm.ee 20 points 1 month ago

"JD Vance is taking children in Ohio."

It's okay to repeat this even if it is a lie because it brings attention to child rape that is happening.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 1 month ago

Who would have thought JD is an opportunistic piece of shit who has contempt for others?

[-] TimLovesTech@badatbeing.social 5 points 1 month ago

JD admitted today to fucking couches to bring attention to the issue that not enough people are putting protective sheets on their furniture.

"Donald Trump and I have started talking about memes of me fucking a couch to bring attention to this important issue in the lives of the American people, and how the media is just ignoring the topic of couch fucking." - JD "couch fucker" Vance

[-] FauxPseudo@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

What he is admitting is that there isn't enough real material to concern the base so he has to make stuff up.

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