Because the conservative machine, despite the love of Elon's right-wing antics, never stop talking about how bad EVs are. Funny, the only time they act like they care about the environment is when they talk about how bad the EV batteries are to manufacture. While they roll coal and drive gas-guzzling mall cruiser bro-dozers all over the place.
Its about 40% more power efficient per mile but theres a couple of other trade-offs, still better yeah.
Public transportation is even better yet
And when we actually get that going I'll stop making sure I always have a car available.
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Put them in a sealed room with a gas engine running and you'll see how fast they realize that they're cleaner
Fair, but the first rebuttal is going to be "go into a sealed room with a coal fire burning"
I'd happily hang out in a sealed room with a nuclear reactor.
... how is that an argument?
Because we Americans are easily swayed by propaganda, unfortunately.
Of course they're cleaner. As long as your electricity isn't coming from coal, you're doing better by the environment than an ICE.
Even if your energy comes from coal they're still more efficient.
Genuine question - are EVs better for the environment if the main source of electricity of my country is coal based? Most of the coal plants are pretty old too…
Yes. That's the entire point here. The answer is yes.
Yes, whether your electric plant is coal, natural gas, or honestly even if it was diesel. Larger engines are more efficient than smaller ones. It's been a long time since I broke down the math over 10 years so my information is probably wildly out of date but even 10 years ago when you broke down the math charging an EV from a fossil fuel plant of any kind was still ultimately more efficient than a gas car in the long term.
Couple that with the ability of many EV now to also act as a battery for your house and that just goes wildly into the EVs favor if you utilize that for peak demand offset. Which many people could do easily even if it meant not having their battery fully charged in the morning when they go to leave for work because let's face it very few people drive more than 60 miles full round trip in a day so even with their battery at say half they would have more than enough for their whole day plus extra.
Cleaner than gas cars =/= Clean.
This is the lowest possible bar to pass. The point isn't that EVs are worse than gas. The point is that both are terrible for people, health, safety, climate, transit, sustainability, equity, freedom, etc.
So what’s your plan? Ban cars? Good luck.
We wouldn't have to resign ourselves to bullshit half measures if we lived in a society that didn't treat public transit as the "poor person's option" and didn't see sitting in bumper to bumper traffic, breathing in all those wonderful carcinogenic fumes as "freedom".
Let's ban oil company propaganda first. Also, yeah. Fuck cars.
We have plenty of public transport here.
I'd still need a car because I do a lot of hiking and I carry a lot of stuff to and from work
It's not that public transportation is for the poors, it's that it is inconvenient. I used to ride the metro every day to work when I lived in DC and it added an extra hour vs driving. I didn't mind as I could chill and read a book or listen to music but it was extra time.
When I moved to Portland I could take the bus to work because my house and job were on the same route so it was only about 5 minutes more than driving. Now I'd have to take 2 buses, or walk a mile to the bus stop on the same route as my work. Either option would turn a 10 minute drive into an hour commute each way. I don't have that kind of extra time when I work 12 hour shifts and come home on my lunch break to walk the dog. I assume people with kids have even more of a time crunch.
Wut. Cars have legitimate uses.
EVs dont only not pollute wherever they drive, but overall are probably around 70% efficient if including the power generation, while gas is 40% or less.
The others, I think you are projecting US problems to the whole self-owned transportation sector.
Over the longterm, and they also require a lot less maintenance because they don't have to deal with mini-explosions from combustion generating excess heat and stress. The problem is in the battery, and the industry hasn't even scratched the surface for solutions.
I see trucks carrying butane tanks all the time, where are the trucks carrying EV battery replacements? There aren't because the industry wants to charge extra for fixed installation ones depending on capacity and charging capacity and there is absolutely no profit incentive that offsets other losses to standardize battery systems in a way they can be easily extensible or replaceable.
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