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[-] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 102 points 1 year ago

Okay don't think the FTC said Shit hole, no need to hyperbolize everything

[-] vivavideri@lemmy.world 73 points 1 year ago

I would slide them $5 for them to openly swear though

[-] Thekingoflorda@lemmy.world 34 points 1 year ago

Damn… that is 2000% their annual budget.

[-] Ghostalmedia@lemmy.world 29 points 1 year ago

Exactly. The document simply states

“We're gonna make 'em eat our shit, then shit out our shit, then eat their shit which is made up of our shit that we made 'em eat.”

[-] sin_free_for_00_days@sopuli.xyz 12 points 1 year ago

Good ol' Jay. He is a wordsmith.

[-] jonne@infosec.pub 18 points 1 year ago

Would be cooler if they did, tho

[-] charles@lemmy.world 15 points 1 year ago

That's the title of OPs linked article. What's a lemming to do?

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[-] dangblingus@lemmy.world 93 points 1 year ago

Amazon is literally aliexpress but with a more sophisticated UI.

Nothing but absolute shit chinese knock off products. No longer can you get the same kind of savings like you could in the past. You're basically paying full retail now, plus prime or shipping.

Ali has good stuff depending on what you're buying. Amazon usually has the exact same stuff for like 50% more

[-] LukeMedia@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Yeah, unless I need something ASAP, I usually only buy name brands, but not expensive items on Amazon. Other stuff I go to Ali for and just wait a little longer. Expensive stuff I buy in person or directly from the manufacturer when possible. Recently I've been trying to supplement Amazon purchases with small businesses where possible.

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[-] tacosplease@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I used to shop exclusively on Banggood. At the time AliExpress was sketchy.

A few years ago they flip flopped. Now Banggood is hot garbage, and AliExpress isn't bad.

Gearbest, Temu, and Wish were always bad in my experience.

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[-] tacosplease@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Sellers even drop ship from AliExpress and similar sites. Basically every time the shipping is quoted longer than a week it's probably drop shipped from one of the Chinese sites. They add $5-$10 to the price and take their cut without ever touching the product.

[-] SamHandwich@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 1 year ago

I canceled my prime membership and stopped using Amazon entirely after I ordered something that turned out to be drop shipped straight from Walmart. But online shopping in general is a nightmare these days.

[-] chiliedogg@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Prime AND shipping half the time these days.

[-] llama@midwest.social 6 points 1 year ago

More than full retail most of the time! They're not even bothering to compete with Walmart or Target anymore on the same products.

[-] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 90 points 1 year ago

My favorite enshittification of Amazon is how you can filter products by manufacturer, but only if the manufacturer is a reputable company like JOOGEE or XZzy or GoodTime and not those weird no-name companies like Anker or Samsung.

[-] MrBusiness@lemmy.zip 31 points 1 year ago

Won't even bring up the brands I like unless I search for them specifically, even then they're not the first result. Amazon gives the ad space to brands that are around for 3 months then poof.

[-] llama@midwest.social 16 points 1 year ago

Oh and I love when I sort by price and half the results disappear.

[-] skuzz@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 1 year ago

My favorite enshittification of Amazon is that, plus, the bonus fact the filtering acts different if you pay for prime. The filtering works better with prime. It should work the same regardless if one pays for prime or not.

They basically deliver a shopping experience that is worse unless you pay them money monthly. It's enshittification two layers of abstraction deep.

[-] TWeaK@lemm.ee 75 points 1 year ago

I can't even get the sorting method to work. It shows me a few items that match the sorting at first, then it goes all over the place. Utterly useless.

Either that or it gives you like 3 results after filtering, even though there were pages of matching results before the filter was applied.

[-] DreddNYC@lemmy.world 71 points 1 year ago

Amazon has to deal with their counterfeit merchandise problem. Try to buy a memory card on Amazon and odds are you get a bogus counterfeit card.

[-] Massada42@lemmy.world 35 points 1 year ago

It’s broken for us, it works just fine for them.

[-] bobman@unilem.org 19 points 1 year ago

Amazon has the money to vet its products and provide better search results, it just chooses not to because it doesn’t need to.

Better to shove a shitty, expensive product in customer’s faces than a cheap, standard one.

[-] charles@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

Not only that, Amazon has the mechanisms to prevent counterfeiting today: dedicated bins for individual sellers products. They just make the vendors pay an extra fee to use it.

Literally extorting their sellers. "Gee it'd be a shame if some counterfeit merchandise were to be sold instead of yours. I could protect you from that"

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[-] Stoneykins@mander.xyz 66 points 1 year ago

For a while I used amazon as a "product browser", I would shop for what I want on there, and then go buy it straight from the manufacturer or whatever online marketplace the seller prefers.

Now, it has gotten so bad, it isn't even useful for that. Amazon will show you 50 overpriced knockoffs of the thing you'd actually want to buy without ever showing you the real thing unless you already know the brand name of what you want ahead of time. The reviews are useless too now, everything has 4 1/2 stars and the same substanceless reviews.

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Hard to shop for vitamins when you have sham accounts claiming it cured their cancer, when you're just trying to take better care of yourself but don't wanna fall for homeopathic scams.

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[-] Desistance@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago

I remember at one point that Amazon was amazing. Now days it's a crapshoot on product quality and delivery time.

[-] orca@orcas.enjoying.yachts 46 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Etsy is now just as enshittified. Almost everything on there is dropshipped bullshit from AliExpress. You have to trudge through a massive amount of crap listings just to find anything handmade.

[-] Corkyskog@sh.itjust.works 17 points 1 year ago

From what I have heard from sellers it's as bad on the other end. Nobody wants to buy a piece of handmade jewelry for $50, when there is an Ali drop ship that says "hand made" for $5. It's extremely difficult to judge the quality until the item arrives, so shoppers get conned into buying junk to save a few $ that they thought was hand made.

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[-] ITypeWithMyDick@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

The continuation of enshitification

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[-] Zacryon@feddit.de 46 points 1 year ago

Don't use Amazon. It's not like they are the only web shop for stuff you would like to have.

[-] TwoBeeSan@lemmy.world 23 points 1 year ago

I've had good luck with drop.com for electronics.

Have any recommendations? Sometimes it's hard to beat the convenience of Amazon.

[-] ChewTiger@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Drop used to be so much better before the rename.

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[-] Fermion@feddit.nl 8 points 1 year ago

Between home depot, target, best buy, and walmart I can typically find most things I'm looking for.

I usually try to shop by reviewers first and check if the manufacturer sells directly. Retailers don't need to get a chunk of every purchase.

[-] daemoz@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago

Amazon and bezos sucks, but Walmart and the Waltons is evil condensed. the only excuse to shop walmart is if it's the only option for 100 miles. Amazon at least has aws and few redeeming pro services that pay their employees and provide infastructure to others.

[-] Fermion@feddit.nl 8 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Walmart is a last resort option. For example, my last purchase was an unusual size bicycle inner tube. I physically went to two other stores before ordering from walmart. I have no love for walmart, but Amazon poses the larger monopolistic threat. The damage amazon is capable of inflicting is only just beginning.

Amazon's marketshare with aws scares me more than their retail presence. They will definitely use that market dominance to the detriment of society.

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[-] mojo@lemm.ee 32 points 1 year ago

I swear by the time FTC notices, they've been doing it for like 10 years already

[-] kaitco@lemmy.world 28 points 1 year ago

IDK what’s worse…that this is a thing, or that I’m so accustomed to Amazon’s shenanigans that I’m used to heading into the dark web of results, aka Page 2, in order to find exactly what I’m looking for.

That said, charging cables are kind of a bad example. I’m prepared to spend $10 on a 6-pack of varying lengths of Brand X cables I’ll replace next year as opposed to one $25 Apple-approved MFi cable that I’ll also replace next year.

[-] bobman@unilem.org 9 points 1 year ago

Page 2 is never a safe place to be.

Amazon fails because its so expansive, but customer's expectations aren't high enough for Amazon to maintain that breadth.

Amazon has the money to vet its products and provide better search results, it just chooses not to because it doesn't need to.

Better to shove a shitty, expensive product in customer's faces than a cheap, standard one.

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[-] BeautifulMind@lemmy.world 18 points 1 year ago

Not gonna lie, it's almost refreshing to hear FTC acknowledge what's been true for years

[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago

Kick Amazon's ass FTC!

[-] firadin@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Lina Khan is staking her career on this one, but the way the US judiciary looks there's no way Amazon suffers.

[-] NightAuthor@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Is that a direct quote?

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