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[-] OhStopYellingAtMe@lemmy.world 88 points 1 year ago

When asked about imposing age limits in congress, Mitch McConnell was quoted as saying: “………….” 😶

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 73 points 1 year ago

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1361920/senators-age-share-us/

A third of the Senate is over 70, and another third are between 60 and 69....

Roughly 2/3s of the Senate is past the normal retirement age

[-] meco03211@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Technically retirement age is 65 (might have moved to 67). But don't worry, Republicans have proposed moving the retirement agree to 75. That'd really cut down on the senators past retirement age and they don't even have to retire!

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

It's got raised to 67 for OASDI already

https://money.usnews.com/money/retirement/social-security/articles/the-social-security-retirement-age-increases

But only if you were born after 1960, most of the boomers still get OASDI earlier.

[-] jballs@sh.itjust.works 19 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Having a retirement age of 67 should be seen as a complete failure of our society. Boeing did a study that found if their employees retired at 55, then they collected retirement benefits on average for 25 years - dying at 80 years old.

However, those that retired at 65 only collected retirement benefits for ~~2 years~~ 18 months - dying at 67. Basically meaning that for every year you work past 55, you're missing out on 2 years of retirement (working an extra year and also taking a year off your life).

A retirement age of 67 is basically the same as having no retirement age at all. It's just a "fuck you, work till you die."

Edit: Seems like this might not be true

[-] doctordevice@lemm.ee 19 points 1 year ago

Couldn't this just be an indirect way of saying people with more money live longer? Retiring at 55 means you're pretty well off, retiring at 67 likely means you couldn't afford to retire early. Less money means lower ability to afford healthy food and medical care.

[-] HughJanus@lemmy.ml -5 points 1 year ago

Let's just go ahead and dispense with this nonsense that healthy food is "expensive". The produce section at the grocery store is incredibly inexpensive. You can get a whole single serving meal for $1-3.

[-] BeautifulMind@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

this nonsense that healthy food is “expensive”

This can depend a lot on where you are. If it's readily available to you, it means you live in a well-served community. Not all communities are well-served in this way- food deserts are a thing, you know

[-] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 4 points 1 year ago

Well TIL then, thanks

[-] doctordevice@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Maybe it's just my area (very high COL), but the produce section is actually really expensive. $1-3 is an insultingly wrong amount. It's cheaper to get the absurdly priced pre-made salads from my local supermarket than it would be to buy the ingredients individually. Somehow Trader Joe's actually has affordable pre-made salads that are way cheaper than individual ingredients.

Healthy food is expensive as fuck, in both money and time. Neither of which the working class has anymore.

[-] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 year ago

It's cheaper to get the absurdly priced pre-made salads from my local supermarket than it would be to buy the ingredients individually.

That makes zero sense. How is it possible that it's cheaper to have someone assemble a salad than it is to just purchase the raw unprocessed ingredients?

Where do you live?

[-] doctordevice@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

A top 10 cost of living city in the US. And trust me, I know very well that it doesn't make sense but neither do any grocery prices right now. My wife and I were baffled not too long ago when it cost literally $50 for pretty basic salad ingredients for a Greek salad. Granted we were making enough for like 8 servings, but I don't even think that included any ingredients for the dressing since we had all of that at home. I know you won't believe me but I'm not kidding.

We just buy the pre-made ones from Trader Joe's for like $3-4 (for two servings) now.

[-] TheActualDevil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Have you tried buying just enough lettuce for a single salad? or carrots and maybe some fruit? You don't get fresh foods single serve. but the grocery store isn't making a single salad, they're making 20, and they're not paying the same price for those ingredients they're selling them to you for. Those ingredients cost them a fraction of the listed price. Also, I'm a single person household and I eat a breakfast and a mid-day meal. If I want a salad for that meal, I can get the ingredients fresh. In there smallest amount that's like, 6-7 salads that only really stay good for like, 3 days, so I don't buy salad ingredients. That's a potential lost sale, but if they have pre-made salads I'll buy some because it won't wilt before I eat it, so they have another sale from me! I promise, the math works out easily.

[-] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Have you tried buying just enough lettuce for a single salad? or carrots and maybe some fruit?

...yes? You can buy as much or as little as you want, they charge by weight.

but the grocery store isn't making a single salad, they're making 20, and they're not paying the same price for those ingredients they're selling them to you for. Those ingredients cost them a fraction

The ingredients are not expensive, the labor is.

[-] TheActualDevil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Where do you live that you can pluck off a couple leaves of romaine and leave the rest? It's not a butcher where they cut off what you need. You buy a whole head of lettuce. The cost is by weight, but there tends to be a minimum from the size of the food. Do you know how much you get from shredding a single carrot?

[-] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

What are you a rabbit? You gonna eat a couple Romaine leaves for lunch? You can't eat a head of Romaine over the course of 3 meals? 🤔

[-] TheActualDevil@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

What are you a rabbit eating a head of romaine in a day? Throw in some veggies and nuts, it doesn't take a big salad to be filling for me. And I like variety in my meals, not just salad for 3 days. And have you seen the size of a full head of romaine? Not that "hearts of" romaine shit where they pull off the real leafy outsides and definitely costs more. A whole head is huge.

Listen my guy, it's okay to just be like "I guess I was wrong. They brought some good points to explain why raw fresh ingredients do cost more than a premade salad, plus he definitely has even more boring ones that he didn't bring up because it's unnecessary. I don't need to latch onto the eating habits he mentioned to turn the conversation away from my incorrect assumption."

No one is making this shit up. You've had 3 people tell you how they personally have bought both options and found that buying pre-made is cheaper. Your incredulousness doesn't change that. I've worked in produce departments in years past and I understand both the ordering process/prices and the how the labor is actually spent in making those salads. Your inability to comprehend is a you problem.

[-] HughJanus@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

My God, what an arrogant twat. Goodbye 👋

[-] SeducingCamel@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

Isn't that like, longer than our average lifespan?

[-] meco03211@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Pretty sure that's like early 80s or maybe late late 70s. So you can have a few years to enjoy your retirement at least. What a deal, right?!

[-] SeducingCamel@lemm.ee 9 points 1 year ago

It'll be nice to have time to enjoy my hobbies that I'm too rickety for and to spend time with my family that's dead

[-] halferect@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

That's the point, you work and pay for a dream of not working and before you can collect you die.

I mean, if they can somehow move retirement to 75, they’ll absolutely use that as a justification to kill social security.

[-] AllonzeeLV@lemmy.world 43 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Coming soon to ~~theaters~~ the Senate:

Weekend at Mitch's

I hear Dianne Feinstein plays the love interest 🍿

[-] Kidplayer_666@lemm.ee 31 points 1 year ago

Back in my day, there were no people over 80. They were all dead!

[-] Viking_Hippie@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

Or were about to be whenever you discovered them

[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 13 points 1 year ago

If we do an age limit it should be scientifically defined, something like the statistical average age at which mental decline due to old age has set in. Wording it like that will allow the exact age to be flexible with the times if say longevity increases or a generation is born into such harsh environmental conditions that it lowers the average cognitive ability at a younger age than expected.

[-] Persen@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Then we would work until we were demented. Great.

[-] PhlubbaDubba@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

Mental decline due to old age presently begins to set in noticeably in the mid to late 60s.

Plus, it's better than the present system where authority and paying jobs are held onto for dear life by zombified boomers out of what can only be assumed as sheer spite for the up and coming.

[-] Okokimup@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Don't worry, if she can't remember, someone else will tell her how to vote. It's representational representational democracy.

[-] Bytemeister@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Too be fair, she could have been all there mentally and died from something else. My Great-grandma was very sharp, and very aware when she passed at 82.

[-] Okokimup@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

She could have been, but she wasnt. Her cognitive decline was well known and documented.

[-] _number8_@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

this is a good point. wtf do those staffers think they're doing -- helping her? carrying out the sacred traditions?

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

Staffers work for the person, not the office.

If your boss retires, you're out of a job. Pretty sure Feinsteins top staffer is Pelosi's niece (maybe daughter?) And I doubt she'd have trouble finding a job, but most have a financial incentive to keep their boss in office for as long as possible.

[-] meco03211@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

Direct incentive yes but it's to the overall detriment to their position in life at this point. Aren't Feinstein and Pelosi in solid blue districts? There's little risk to "losing" the seat.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

What?

If another person replaced a politician (even if it's the same party) the staffers will likely all lose their jobs.

These aren't merit based positions, they're usually returns for "favors" so they're attached to the person not office.

I hope it made more sense that time.

[-] meco03211@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

And I was adding the nuance that keeping the dinosaurs in office past there effectiveness is more likely a net loss in the end. They just can't/won't see past the immediate benefit of keeping a job.

[-] Restaldt@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

Sir/Madam this is America. We do not consider anything past short term profit

[-] plant@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 year ago

What fucking timing, rip in piss

I swear I had no idea!

[-] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago
[-] Gamey@feddit.de 3 points 1 year ago

You can't vote for the first 18 years, why not do the same based on the average life expectancy? That would even add a incentive for older politicians to improve medical care for all!

[-] IamRoot@sh.itjust.works 0 points 1 year ago
[-] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I like to pretend it's McConnell in drag. More fappable.

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