The amount of times I've heard someone say 'its for the farmers' as if farmers have ever given a fuck what the clock says.
I think it's for us postal workers, so we can sleep in for an hour right before pre-Black Friday and Black Friday and Black Friday Returns and Christmas and Christmas Returns. And then when we're finally done with Valentine's Card season we pay it back right before Tax Return season
Farmer here. I like daylight saving time. It saves us from getting up at 4:30am during the summer. Now if yall want to stay on daylight time year-round and not get on standard time in the winter, well that is just fine by me.
So what if the clock says 4:30 am? It's the same time in that you're working the same daylight. All removing it would do for you is change the number on your clock, but for the people who work on set schedules it would change our needing to fuck with our sleep schedules twice a year
No, not exactly. We work on set schedules too for the most part. I have employees who have lives outside of their work. With daylight savings we start work at the same time everyday. If we'd remove it, then I have to ask them to come in an hour early during harvest. I also have a life outside my farm. I have kids who have to get to school in the morning.
I agree that changing the clocks is bad. All I am saying is do not get rid of daylight savings time. Get rid of standard time. Let's stay on daylight savings forever, so both farmers and non-farmers are happy.
My dad did that one year lol. Refused to change his clocks or personal routine. Dunno if he was able to stick with it or not — but it was funny to hear him talk so seriously about why he "refuses to abide by such an arbitrary concept that makes his life harder, by having to adjust his body's schedule"
His face had such a straight up "nope, fuck all that" look about it, it cracked me up lmao
“Excuse me sir on the tractor, what time is it?”
“It’s who gives a fuck o’clock, city boy.”
I’ve never heard anyone who likes DST… this thread confirms my bias. Arizona has it right. We have internet now, no need to change clocks, just update your schedules for the season.
I like DST. I just don't like changing the clocks. Permanent DST would be the ideal imo
I disagree. The sun does not need to be up at 9pm in the summer. We have light bulbs now.
Eliminate DST entirely, and call it a day. Like the other person said, Arizona has the right idea. Let's do permanent fall/winter time. People who live in far north regions like Alaska, Iceland, Norway, etc can go to permanent DST if they want. But it doesn't make sense for most of the world.
I'm in one of those more northern areas so maybe that's why I prefer DST. In the summer the sun is up so early and sets so late that it doesn't matter, but in the winter DST would mean at least some evening light when more people have free time than dark at both ends.
Props to this man. Animals don’t follow daylight savings and it’s easier to keep a farm on standard time.
No, daylight savings was not invented for farmers
They always used to claim daylight savings was for farmers, even though farmers are probably the people in society who least have to follow the same daily schedule as anyone else.
I watched a documentary on it, it was actually a war thing. Back then many factories didn't have lights so they could adjust to the sun easier using DST.
It was only implemented during WWI and WWII until sometime in the sixties when it became permanent.
I always thought it was for office workers and was essentially a green energy program. I've never heard an argument that it had anything to do with farmers, especially since farmers set their schedule by dawn and dusk.
I work for a Chinese company and my colleagues treat daylight savings time as an inexplicable religious ritual that they indulgently accommodate us ptimitives iin.
I feel the same as a programmer. Also time zones.
It is a ridiculous thing, but it doesn't strike them as odd that their own country has just one timezone despite being wider than the USA?
I'd be happy if the whole planet had the same timezone. Just adjust your personal life to global time, rather than expecting time to adjust to anyone's work/school timetable.
As a programmer I would love that. But as a person it does make more sense to go "it's 4am in California, that person is probably sleeping" than "it's 11am, what is the sun situation like in California rn?"
The best counter point I've heard for it is that a date change would happen in the middle of the work day for half the world. That does sound tough to deal with
Ok but hes actually got it backwards. Standard time is those four months in winter, and we use daylight savings time during the summer.
He’s not a slave to big chronometer.
Some people willingly handcuff themselves to one.
Wasn't there a bill recently to get rid of DST, and it got stalled in Congress or something?
I thought the news was that it was going to happen, but I haven't kept up.
I found this from earlier this year...so, yeah, basically stalled in Congress.
If it's only four months then he doesn't care about standard time, we are actually on daylight savings time for the majority of the year.
Which is pretty wild when you think about it. The darkest, coldest, most depressing time if the year we let the sun set super early.
most depressing time
For some of us summer is the most depressing time of the year js
I don't care which is used, so long as it sticks to one
Seems like a pretty reasonable course for a farmer to take. Livestock don't have clocks, after all.
I did this one year. It was better. It just feels like normal time. I don't actually remember it being a problem at all and my morning/evening was better.
That's what I do with the automated cat feeders. Cats do not observe daylight savings time.
Sure he does, becsuse all time-measuring devices of any sort in his house are analogue and have to be changed manually, and none them have phones which automatically corrects the time.
So in essences they have some clocks in theirs houses which are off by an hour for four months a year. They still use the time everyone else uses, because that's how time works.
You can pretty easily disable automatic daylight savings time adjustments on most devices, even my car has the option.
Isn't daylight savings time 8 months of the year? The four "winter" months are when we're on standard time, so seems like it would be pretty easy to ignore DST during those 4 months. Or maybe I am misinterpreting?
For some people who can't be fucked to care about it (like me, and the person in the original post) it's the changing of the clocks we call daylight saving(s) time, not a particular time zone designation or whatever.
"Don't forget, it's daylight savings time this weekend"... "not again! which way do I move my clock?"
We don't care about the details and we don't care what it's acktually called, we just want to never do it again. Pick a time and stick with it.
When working with a flexible schedule I do this too. Having your own timezone can be convinient.
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