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[-] troyunrau@lemmy.ca 77 points 1 month ago

Assuming I have time, and an audience that isn't too entrenched, I will try to respond with with something that goes like:

Science is both a method of acquiring new knowledge and a largely self-consistent model containing the already acquired knowledge. As we acquire new knowledge, we must update the model.

If our sum of all knowledge was perfect, then we'd never update the model. But, over time, the model tends towards "better than before".

As it is physically impossible to be an expert in all things, at some point you have to trust that the people that have been updating or refining the model where it relates to their specific expertise are largely doing so in good faith and in accordance with the scientific method.

This is not the same as faith. The model can be wrong in places and will get updated over time. This is a process. If you understand the process, then you understand science.

(I sometimes will use different phrasing -- the word "model" throws some people, so instead I'll use "the whole body of knowledge" or something like that.)

[-] fossilesque@mander.xyz 19 points 1 month ago

Thank you for helping me articulate an argument later.

[-] Meron35@lemmy.world 14 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

"Science adjusts its views based on what's observed

Faith is the denial of observation so that belief can be preserved"

From Tim Minchin's Storm the Animated Movie - YouTube - https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=HhGuXCuDb1U

[-] dis_honestfamiliar@lemmy.world 2 points 1 month ago

Isn't this sort of like It is the case of not yet ruled out?

[-] Habahnow@sh.itjust.works 33 points 1 month ago

I like this one. I've heard Scientist lie or scientist are wrong, but it feels ironic that people still trust them every single day with the products that they consume that were generally thought of from scientists.

[-] BudgetBandit@sh.itjust.works 25 points 1 month ago

I trust those scientists who want to bust something and end up confirming it. Like flat-earthers, constantly proving that the earth is round, using cheap equipment and expensive equipment alike.

[-] sundray@lemmus.org 16 points 1 month ago

If crackpots never contributed anything to science, then why do we all use Cubic Time now??!

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 12 points 1 month ago
[-] Glytch@lemmy.world 11 points 1 month ago

Don't look for Time Cube. That way lies madness.

[-] FuglyDuck@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago

I like time isododecahedrosolies.

(Yes. I made that shape up. You think I can be arsed to remember polyhedra?)

[-] agamemnonymous@sh.itjust.works 8 points 1 month ago

Time cube. What are you, educated stupid and evil?

[-] kameecoding@lemmy.world 7 points 1 month ago
[-] HawlSera@lemm.ee 1 points 1 month ago

Questioning the science is how you do science.

this post was submitted on 08 Oct 2024
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