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Can I get more info on why these are showing up? I've never seen such a thing on F-Droid before.

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[–] FutileRecipe@lemmy.world 66 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Fennec and Mull 129.0.2 in F-Droid.org repository have 42 known security issues

Ref: https://forum.f-droid.org/t/fennec-vulnerability-recommended-to-uninstall/

[–] SatyrSack@feddit.org 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

The issue preventing updates should be resolved soon thanks to @linsui fixing it!

What is wrong with updating?

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 23 points 11 months ago (1 children)

it was mentioned in a This Week In F-droid blog post around September. basically google fucked up an important development library, and any firefox forks (possibly some other apps too) could not be built anymore normally. of course google was unwilling to fix the issue, so linsui (and F-droid member) fixed the build process somehow, possibly temporarily.

you may ask how is this not a problem for the official release of the firefox app, and my answer is that they probably build this component for themselves, and fixed the problem in house (if they had it at all)

[–] SatyrSack@feddit.org 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Right, but that comment that I quoted from the F-Droid forum makes it sound like there is some sort of issue updating to a build with the vulnerability patched. My Mull is on 131.0.3, and I do not remember having an issue updating it.

[–] N4CHEM@lemmy.ml 12 points 11 months ago

You're probably getting your Mull updates via the DivestOS repository, not the official F-Droid repository.

[–] N4CHEM@lemmy.ml 44 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

There was a critical vulnerability found on Firefox some days ago: CVE-2024-9680. Fennec and Mull are forks of Firefox. They both fixed this issue already in their source code, BUT there is a problem preventing F-Droid from building these updated, fixed versions.

In the case of Mull, you can download the updated version from the DivestOS F-Droid repository: https://divestos.org/fdroid/official/, but if you are currently using the F-Droid version you will need to uninstall it first, since they have different signatures.

[–] Kajika@lemmy.ml 33 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

The current version has a critical security vulnerability (https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/security/advisories/mfsa2024-51/) but to fix it the new version compiled against libclang version 27 but Google decided to remove it from Android so the building pipeline needs to be adjusted.

There's a long discussion: https://gitlab.com/relan/fennecbuild/-/merge_requests/63 , about building the newer version

In the meanwhile the app is a security hazard.

[–] mac@lemm.ee 24 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

There should really be push notifications around installed apps with known vulns... Its tracked here: https://forum.f-droid.org/t/vulnerability-warnings-in-f-droid-app/20505

Could someone with a gitlab account open a feature request on the f droid repo?

I tried to open an account but it required email + cell phone (it picked up my VoIP number) and a credit card....

EDIT: I generated an RSS feed based off of Mozilla's known vuln list. If anyone knows of a better way to do this, please let me know!

[–] Quintus@lemmy.ml 19 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Are these two from the same maintainer? If not, considering that they both use Firefox Android as their base, does this mean there is a vulnerability in Firefox Android?

[–] Piwix@lemm.ee 32 points 11 months ago (1 children)

There was and it was fixed by the looks of it. Guessing these apps have not urgently pulled the fixes in and released an update, so F-droid is urging people not to use the apps until so

[–] WhyJiffie@sh.itjust.works 11 points 11 months ago

they pulled the fixes, but couldn't build because google fucked up the NDK. my other comment has more details

[–] kitnaht@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

Yes, there was a remote code execution vulnerability in the CSS engine of firefox a little while ago. If you're on desktop version 131 or lower, update to 131.0.3 when possible. I don't know how the versioning works for the Android versions here...

[–] Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

173? What happened to firefox versions? We just started the 130s

[–] kitnaht@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

shit, woops. I've got memory issues, my bad. Let me fix that rq. Thanks for catching it.

https://nvd.nist.gov/vuln/detail/CVE-2024-9680

[–] Redjard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 11 months ago

Yeah that seems about right.

I don't know how the versioning works for the Android versions here...

Android has the same versions as desktop here, which is why there is no differentiation. The main chunk of firefox is platform independent (and even used in thunderbird too).

So any firefox android app and fork thereof needs that version 131.0.3+ too (unless it is esr which is 128 currently).

[–] DishonestBirb@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (5 children)

Uninstalling my primary browser isn't really a practical solution, what am I supposed to use, Chrome? How about fixing the version they're shipping? Or should I be looking somewhere other than F-Droid for Android Firefox?

[–] cyberwolfie@lemmy.ml 13 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (1 children)

I changed to the Divest-repo for Mull, and they have an updated version that has fixed these security issues.

ETA: Different signing keys though, so you can't just update it, but have to reinstall.

[–] Moah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] cyberwolfie@lemmy.ml 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

You add https://divestos.org/apks/official/fdroid/repo/ as a repo in F-Droid settings. After that you can choose which repo to prefer for Mull.

[–] Moah@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 11 months ago
[–] kazaika@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Theyre the distributor, the dont fix apps and its not their job to do so. Getting the same app from a different source wont change anything

[–] Swedneck@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 11 months ago (3 children)

huh? no one's asking them to fix firefox, we're asking that they just ship the latest version.

the warning states that several vulnerabilities have been fixed since firefox version 130, f-droid's latest version of the package is 129: that very much makes it sound like the problem is wholly caused by f-droid not making version 130 available.

[–] AlpacaChariot@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

To ship it they have to work out how to build that version themselves from source though - that's their whole thing. It's not like a normal app store where they take pre-built binaries from the developer.

[–] kazaika@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

Well ok if thats the case you are completely right, as long as there isnt some kind of issue and others have already updated the package pushing security fixes asap is indeod important

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[–] ace_garp@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Iceraven is a Mozilla based standin.

Can install FFUpdater here:

https://f-droid.org/packages/de.marmaro.krt.ffupdater/

and then select it from there.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I just install Firefox from the Play Store. 🤷‍♂️ Is that bad?

[–] x00z@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] victorz@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] x00z@lemmy.world 1 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] victorz@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago (3 children)

But Firefox good..? Serious replies only please, I really am curious.

[–] abbenm@lemmy.ml 2 points 10 months ago (1 children)

But Firefox good…?

Yes! They are the most important alternative to major corporate backed browsers, helping sustain a diversified browser ecosystem so that no one company can monopolize the web, and push it toward standards that reinforce their monopoly. Google has tried to lock down the phone, app market, browsing experience that sustains their ad networks, and regularly pushes new standards that de-emphasize things like RSS, and that break ad blocking functionality to sustain their monopoly and invade privacy.

Firefox reverses or mitigates most of those and are explicitly driven by a mission of sustaining an open web with standards that don't bend the web to corporate dominance. Google's cheeky dont be evil mantra was in reference to exactly the things they are doing now, and it's a little too on the nose to their actual behavior so it's no longer a slogan of theirs, cheeky or otherwise.

[–] victorz@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Exactly my point. I don't get why there's a fuss about installing it from the Play Store. Like, why is the Play Store bad, inherently. I'm not saying it isn't, I'm curious as to why it would be.

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[–] GolfNovemberUniform@lemmy.ml 6 points 11 months ago (2 children)

It doesn't say anything like that in Droid-ify. I don't remember any recent reports of vulnerabilities either.

[–] everett@lemmy.ml 24 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Sounds like Droidify is missing F-Droid features. More info on the web.

[–] retrolasered@lemmy.zip 2 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Im not getting it on f droid

Edit: oh wait, there it is

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago

if you activated divestOS repos on droid-ify than you probably have the fixed update

[–] granolabar@kbin.melroy.org 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)
[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 11 months ago

It us still there

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