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[-] mr_satan@monyet.cc 27 points 3 days ago

Speaking of Ukraine, did you know that currently there are North Korean solders contributing to the invasion. Not only 3 day special military operation is taking 3 years, but also russia, by itself, is unable to complete it.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 8 points 3 days ago

I believe it was like 15,000 troops

I wonder if they will use the North Korean strategy for saving resources (not feeding its people)

Also Ukraine has F-16s from the Netherlands (Russia shot down a NL plane killing hundreds of civilians)

I ask this again? Why is every single major instance still federated with them?

[-] SkyezOpen@lemmy.world 18 points 3 days ago

Literally what the fuck. We have GEOTAGGED IMAGES OF CONFIRMED ACTIVE RUSSIAN SOLDIERS INVADING UKRAINE IN 2014, and it's called misinfo.

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2014/08/opposite-of-opsec-russian-soldier-posts-selfies-from-inside-ukraine/

[-] pinkystew@reddthat.com 12 points 3 days ago

I'm brand new to Lemmy.

I've seen multiple comments suggesting that .ml be defederated. It was the first thing I saw when I got here. Sounds like there's a bad apple and nothing is being done about it

[-] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 22 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

the main reason is because the people who run lemmy.ml are actually the people whi created lemmy.

Also welcome.

!newcommunities@lemmy.world and !newtolemmy@lemmy.ca are useful for new users.

Also if you’re looking for an instance that has ML defederatrd but is still well federated with everything else I recommend lemmy.cafe

[-] vga@sopuli.xyz 6 points 3 days ago

It's the original apple, so it's historical reasons.

I think it'll happen though, somebody just needs to bite the bullet and be the first brave one.

[-] VantaBrandon@lemmy.world 3 points 3 days ago

Its been kind of an ongoing thing, best to just kind of tune out *ml

[-] Noel_Skum@sh.itjust.works 2 points 3 days ago

I have zero intention of blocking any .ml but, hilariously, I see they’ve deleted one of my comments. I “think” it was because I had the absolute audacity to suggest that there might be one or two bad apples in Hamas. I’ll still pop by their instances though… I’m secure enough to read things I don’t agree with without having a meltdown and trying to erase it from existence. Having said that I do realise why a lot of people would prefer to sidestep the ml area of the fediverse.

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[-] Luci@lemmy.ca 89 points 4 days ago

How the heck is that US propaganda? It's historical fact

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 82 points 4 days ago

Um, aktually, the Ukronazis started the war in 1991 when they ILLEGALLY declared 'independence' from the glorious USSR with a paltry 93% in approval of the plebiscite.

Alternatives or addendums:

  • Crimea was actually invaded by polite green men with no Russian affiliation and the resulting election was completely free and fair
  • Russia was just Defending Ethnic Minorities in the Donbass!
  • NATO provocation mind-controlled Putin into invading
  • Everything started in 2022 and Russian troops were AGGRESSIVELY ATTACKED when all they did was kill a few border guards and try to drive an entire army to Kyiv!
[-] Nougat@fedia.io 49 points 4 days ago

Please imagine this meme that I am too lazy to create:

NATO: exists

Is this provocation?

[-] DarkThoughts@fedia.io 19 points 4 days ago

Tankies = Ruscists = Fascists

Russia was just Defending Ethnic Minorities in the Donbass!

Good old Sudetendeutsche excuse. 卐

[-] taladar@sh.itjust.works 18 points 4 days ago

I believe 4X games tend to label that option "Fabricate a claim"

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[-] Luci@lemmy.ca 19 points 4 days ago

This clears things up. Thank you.

[-] CoCo_Goldstein@lemmy.world 4 points 3 days ago

Well played, good sir.

[-] barsquid@lemmy.world 13 points 4 days ago

Sometimes facts hurt our feelings and that makes them bad and wrong!

[-] vga@sopuli.xyz 4 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

For far right people and tankies facts are propaganda. It's 1900s all over again.

[-] eran_morad@lemmy.world 17 points 4 days ago
[-] wick@lemm.ee 7 points 3 days ago

But don't you know about the azov battalion? This is relevant, please believe me /s

[-] VantaBrandon@lemmy.world 6 points 3 days ago

Tankies gonna tankie

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 32 points 4 days ago

Just a simple 3 day invasion. Nothing to see here.

on Nov. 19 we are on the 1000th day of the 3 day invasion

[-] lemonmelon@lemmy.world 6 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

Russia is so glorious and advanced that even their three-day invasions last over 300× longer!

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[-] mojofrododojo@lemmy.world 9 points 4 days ago

the morons brought their dress uniforms to an invasion believing they'd be needed for the PARADES.

goddamn I can't tell who's dumber, putin thinking this shit would work, or the idiots that tried it.

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[-] okamiueru@lemmy.world 19 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago)

What side of distorted reality are they going for here? It's become harder to tell. You'd think anti-Russian, right? Except Republicans are weirdly pro Putin because their orange clown has a hardon for dicktators.

[-] PugJesus@lemmy.world 26 points 4 days ago

Pro-Russian. .ml is big on bootlicking Putin against 'Western Imperialism' and opposing the 'Ukronazis'.

[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 11 points 3 days ago

Basically modern-day Russia still uses Stalinist newspeak, and tankies take it in good faith. In Stalinist newspeak, "imperialism" meant "opposition of the Soviet empire".

Another thing is, tankies also think the USA is the only obstacle in a global communist revolution, and that social autocracies like Russia and China are not going hinder any attempt at it. China is now also exploiting the global south, and I cannot convince tankies that the Hungaran Fudan university isn't being gifted for free by the Chinese, but is on a loan that Hungarian taxpayers have to pay back.

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[-] Warl0k3@lemmy.world 24 points 4 days ago

Boy, they sure are going full Gonzolo Lira over there...

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[-] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 12 points 4 days ago

@WestBromwich@feddit.uk did you even know you'd been banned due to this comment?

[-] WestBromwich@feddit.uk 4 points 3 days ago

No I didn't know until you tagged me. Seems like they've had a strange reaction to my post. I think what I said in that post is true but I will admit I'm wrong if somebody can prove so. Here are a couple of articles which seem to back up what I said:

Regarding the invasion of Crimea in 2014: "Incognito Russian soldiers appeared throughout Crimea... The Kremlin initially claimed the soldiers were local “self-defense” groups but later admitted they were professional Russian soldiers".

Regarding the invasion of the Donbas in 2014: "A London-based digital forensics agency says it has gathered an enormous body of evidence that Russia’s military was deployed in the August-September 2014 fighting around Ilovaysk, in eastern Ukraine".

[-] blackn1ght@feddit.uk 6 points 3 days ago

They're tankies, they're pro-Russia, pro-China (to a bootlicking degree) and pro North Korea. Basically anything anti US/west.

They've been slurping up Russian propaganda and try and argue that the pro-EU demonstrations in Ukraine in 2014 was some kind of CIA op (because the notion to them that people would willingly choose western ideals is inconceivable) and that Ukraine is full of Nazis and Russia are the good guys defeating Nazis.

I'd strongly avoid blocking the Lemmy.ml instance in your settings. Hexbear and lemmygrad are also similar instances to avoid.

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