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[-] Furbag@lemmy.world 16 points 13 hours ago

Immigration is such a horseshit issue. Why are people dumb enough to fall for this shit?

Immigration will be "solved" come January, but not because Trump will actually do anything about it, but he'll just say the problem is solved and then stop talking about it.

[-] djsoren19@yiffit.net 5 points 10 hours ago

Because the Democrats picked it up and used it as an issue as well. Instead of dispelling the myths of "Bigrant Crime," as if that would be a challenge, they took an anti-immigration stance as well. Honestly, Trump had a rare master class attack on the Dems with the whole "they've been in power for four years, why haven't they already done everything," because it called out just how shallow the Dems bending to conservative anti-immigrant policy was. It was almost certainly an accident on his part, especially since his party was the reason Dems couldn't be as hard on immigration as they wanted, but it turned into effective messaging.

[-] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 7 points 12 hours ago

I don’t think those were choices on the exit poll😂

[-] KneeTitts@lemmy.world 20 points 15 hours ago
[-] bamfic@lemmy.world 3 points 7 hours ago

Thank you, Knee Tits.

[-] anticurrent@sh.itjust.works 28 points 17 hours ago

You don't win an election just with vibes.

Kamala didn't bring as much substance as what the left electorate was expecting from her, and couldn't differentiate herself from Biden and the current term she is serving under. The whole democratic party went under because all they promise is vibes compared the current economical struggles people are facing.

[-] lagomorphlecture@lemm.ee 6 points 10 hours ago

I was onboard with her but I honestly felt icky every time the Biden administration released a new statement about how good the economy is. How out of touch do you have to be to think the economy is good? Republicans have no intention of fixing that but at least they're smart enough to see that people feel crushed in this economy and pander to it. And apparently that was a much bigger issue than abortion, which shocked me at first but as it settles I see that my fear as a woman pales in comparison to America's fear of a woman and America's struggling financial situation.

[-] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 2 points 9 hours ago

How out of touch do you have to be to think the economy is good?

Liberals measure the health of the economy by Gross Domestic Product (which has been going up), and Consumer Price Index (which includes big-screen TVs). You'd have to dismantle everything they paid to learn in college econ.

"It's easier to fool people than to convince them that they have been fooled."

[-] KneeTitts@lemmy.world 11 points 15 hours ago

The truth is the dems are a right wing party now, they've been dragged there by the rethugs.. and people Want to vote for an Actual left wing party, but there literally isnt one in the US.

[-] anticurrent@sh.itjust.works 13 points 15 hours ago

The dems were never left wing in international standards. otherwise you would already have had universal health care.

[-] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 5 points 15 hours ago

The poison of the "big tent". Move a little over to let people in enough and you are no longer representing anyone in a desperate attempt to represent everyone.

[-] djsoren19@yiffit.net 2 points 10 hours ago

between this and the enshittification of big tech and gaming, it feels like 2024 has been one big argument in support of gatekeeping.

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[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 55 points 20 hours ago

Economy

This is Trump's economy, you idiots. This is the fallout from his incompetence and malice. But heaven forbid voters understand basic principles which rule their lives.

[-] kava@lemmy.world 46 points 19 hours ago

i think you give too much credit to Trump. the economy has been rigged against the working class for a long time. it's just getting progressively more brutal which makes people feel increasingly insecure.

an insecure working class elects strongmen who promise simple solutions

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[-] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 14 points 18 hours ago

It's the pattern in American politics that has existed since I was born: Republicans fuck the economy, Democrats do their best to fix it, people blame the Democrats for the bad economy and elect Republicans who fuck it up even more.

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[-] ZILtoid1991@lemmy.world 41 points 20 hours ago

Blame the news media. They sane washed Trump.

[-] ICastFist@programming.dev 112 points 23 hours ago

I love how Economy is a high priority, yet they voted for the asshole known being the genius behind several bankruptcies. "The economy isn't doing good, clearly we need someone who can fuck shit up to make it work!"

[-] GraniteM@lemmy.world 22 points 17 hours ago

The American electorate:

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[-] lastunusedusername2@sh.itjust.works 10 points 16 hours ago

They forgot the most important thing: Lead poisoning

[-] FlashMobOfOne@lemmy.world 36 points 22 hours ago

It's simple, and history has borne this out many many times.

In a bad economy, no one cares about your politics if you're the candidate of change. There's a reason why Harris spent two months repeating memes instead of defending Biden's policies, because it's impossible to defend the fact that you had four years to rule and there are more people working 2-3 jobs just to survive.

They knew they needed to appeal to workers. Instead, they spent most of the campaign repeating this meaningless platitude about joy to people who are being worked to death.

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[-] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 153 points 1 day ago* (last edited 6 hours ago)

Why is there such an obsession with immigration?

Do you want to pick strawberries? It's back-breaking and sucks.

E: thanks for all the replies. I wrote this while pissed about the results, it was supposed to be rhetorical.

At this point, work on helping immigrant friends and neighbors however you can, whether by helping with immigration paperwork or "other"methodologies.

[-] rsuri@lemmy.world 2 points 6 hours ago

Race stuff gets clicks and views

[-] jzzvid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 2 points 10 hours ago

No, I don't think you understand it fully. That's what the legal minorities and children are for. Ask rural folk over 60 if they had a job as a child and you'll got a Lt of answers like "I worked picking tomatoes when I was 10."

The rich get to go to private school, the poor get to sell their children off to robber barons. You would not believe how many parents out there are eager for this too. A good portion of the GOP are abusers that dont really care about their children and if they can force their children to go out and get a job so they can take their paychecks, they will.

That's why they are pro-birth and anti-education. This is why we still dont have year-round schooling because "traditionalists" want to be able to make use of child labor.

If you dont think it is coming, almost every red state has attemptdd to repeal their states child labor laws for agricultural and factory work.

[-] RubberElectrons@lemmy.world 1 points 7 hours ago

I admittedly can't imagine people wanting such a thing. They really are of a different fabric it seems, hurt people hurting people. I guess all the rest of us can do is support letting people know there's another option and helping them escape that trap if desired.

They don't want to live like us, fostering the mind over breaking down the body. So be it, I guess.

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