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[-] mynameisigglepiggle@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

I'm not American, but I would have voted for him the first time around.

I was bored. Bored with life. Let's fuck shit up by putting some crazy in office. Even better that I don't live there so I get to grab the popcorn and watch the crazy.

But by the end of it, I was sooo done. I just wanted it to calm down and go back to normal.

There is no way I would have voted for him this time. And frankly I am disappointed in anyone who did.

[-] IRemember 2 points 40 minutes ago* (last edited 40 minutes ago)

Because you were doing it for fun, they were doing it because their lives are getting worse and wanted any change. Shows how shit the US experience is that this was preferable to continuing on.

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 22 points 2 hours ago

I just feel like after a public rapist becomes president, twice, there's no hope for Americans. It really is hopeless by now.

[-] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 8 points 1 hour ago

child rapist, Kate was 12

[-] Doomsider@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

Think about it this way, if you disqualified politicians who engaged in some kind of sexual assault there would not be many left to govern.

It is accepted and now normalized. If you are rich you can rape and do whatever you want.

The problem for me is I grew up in a country that I thought was beyond that. I was apparently wrong.

[-] Fillicia@sh.itjust.works 7 points 1 hour ago

there would not be many left to govern

Good. There is not that many positions to fill anyway.

It's not normal that a criminal record that would make it almost impossible to find an entry-level grocery packer job is completely OK for a politician.

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 34 minutes ago

a criminal record that would make it almost impossible to find an entry-level grocery packer job is completely OK for a ~~politician~~ fucking president of a huge country

[-] mynameisigglepiggle@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

It's time for Josh Duggar to run for office

[-] victorz@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

I refuse to think about it that way lol. Quantity does not equal acceptance for me. We have to hold our countries' representatives to a higher standard than being outright criminals, guilty of many, serious offenses. If there are only a handful of politicians left after such a sift, then so be it.

Thank God I'm not in the USA. But it's not like this doesn't fuck over the rest of the world too.

[-] Saleh@feddit.org 15 points 3 hours ago

Less people voted Trump in 2024 than in 2020. It is not that Trump won, it is that Biden/Harris lost hard.

Trump: 74 Mio. in 2020, 73 Mio. in 2024

Biden/Harris: 81 Mio. in 2020, 69 Mio. in 2024

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2024_United_States_presidential_election

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_United_States_presidential_election

[-] merc@sh.itjust.works 14 points 3 hours ago

I'd really like to have 100 randomly chosen Trump voters in a room and interview them to find out how knowledgeable they are about Trump, about his policies, about his first term, about the criminal cases, etc.

My guess is that at least 90% of them are brainwashed. I'm sure there are some that are completely aware of his record and are either single issue voters who are voting only on abortion. Some may be multi-millionaires who are voting just for lower taxes and don't care about anything else. But, anybody who voted for him because of inflation / the economy has no idea what they're talking about. Inflation was a worldwide problem and Trump's policies made / will make it worse. Anybody who voted for him because he's going to "fix immigration" has no idea what they're doing because his policies are incoherent and will never work. Anybody who voted for him because of Gaza is an absolute moron because he's just going to encourage the genocide.

[-] mynameisigglepiggle@lemmy.world 2 points 1 hour ago

I see these videos on tiktok. You would think it was fun but it's kinda like talking to a brick. There is no logic.

[-] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

I just judge them for being fucking idiots.

[-] werefreeatlast@lemmy.world 11 points 4 hours ago

I propose a total halt to any sexual activity with any Trump supporter. This will go on for the 4 years that asshole is in power and until a reasonable president that is not a rapist racist asshole is elected. Sure that guy could be republican but I highly recommend elsewhere.

[-] SkyeStarfall@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 33 minutes ago

I don't get how anyone could ever be attracted to a trump supporter anyway. It's a massive massive turn off for me

[-] ziggurat@lemmy.world 1 points 2 hours ago

This comment is not going to age well. Not because of your choice of partner. But you will see that next year, the two term rule will be removed

[-] Aksamit@slrpnk.net 1 points 33 minutes ago

4B needs to become more popular in the US with ovulating people.

It won't guarantee safety from forced situations, but with the incoming total bans on abortion and contraceptives they're facing over there, flat out refusing to have sex, relationships, and marriages with men, is going to be the best way to stay safe and in control of their bodies and finances.

[-] silver_wings_of_morning@feddit.dk 22 points 5 hours ago

I could understand Trump in 2016. I could also understand Trump in 2020 but much less. In 2024? Nahh... America voted for him in 2024 and I will judge Americans for it.

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 8 points 3 hours ago

the only president in over 100 years to lose the popular vote twice. he won it his third time. unbelievable. as a rapist he's probably used to insisting after rejection until he wears them down.

[-] okamiueru@lemmy.world 3 points 3 hours ago

Could you really understand Trump in 2016? I'm not asking to be mean. Wasn't his character the same back then? I've tuned out of US politics since the DNC screwed over Bernie in 2016.

[-] masterofn001@lemmy.ca 15 points 6 hours ago

The religious fanatic psychopaths behind the scenes of MAGA, if successful in their goals, will ensure there is no history.

Dark times is an understatement.

[-] OwlPaste@lemmy.world 13 points 6 hours ago

Just something that's worth pointing out is that trumps voter base didn't change much. Counting is still happening, but so far it's trump -1 mil and Harris -13 million from last election.

So it's not so much that republicans voted badly it's that democrats lost a good chunk of votes (16%) didn't bother to vote this time.

And while I completely disagree with trumps side, it's insane, but at least I am happy that people voted. Voter apathy is far more dangerous to me. It's like saying to politicians, "I don't care that the nazi party is coming to power".

To me that's the biggest issue this election and honestly I don't understand why so few people cared. It's actually same story over here (UK), where we had fewer people voting this election than previous one.

[-] Ilovethebomb@lemm.ee 4 points 5 hours ago

It sounds like the Democrats just failed to present themselves as a viable alternative, or really inspire or motivate anyone to vote. Their platform seemed to be largely not being Trump.

[-] Rekorse@sh.itjust.works 1 points 54 minutes ago

Every interview where questions were asked about Kamala's positions, shed talk about trump. It was not all that different than trump shit talking kamala even.

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[-] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 174 points 10 hours ago

If I find out you voted for Trump in 2016, I will judge you but I could forgive you.

If I find out you voted for Trump in 2020, I will judge you and will have a hard time forgiving you.

If I find out you voted for Trump in 2024, you're dead to me. Friend, family, doesn't matter.

[-] glimse@lemmy.world 54 points 9 hours ago

I wish I could say the same but I can't bring myself to cut my dad out of my life. Yesterday ended our 2 year streak of talking every day.

He learned years ago not to bring up politics with me because he knows I will destroy all of his arguments and bring receipts. He's let a comment or two slip at a family gathering but he knows my phone's coming out of I'm within earshot... No, dad, he was definitely friends with Epstein - here's a quote saying so from the 90s.

I've thought a lot about bringing it up or at the very least what my response would be if he does. I want to tell him that he has 20 years left at best but I have to live in the world he voted for a lot longer. I want to tell him that I think my sister would be right to never speak to him again. I want to tell him that she may be young, but in 15 years my niece is going to rightfully resent him for what he supported.

But what I think I'm going to actually tell him is that he fucked up so bad that I HAVE to assume he truly does not understand the implications of this if I ever want to be able to look him in the eye again.

And every single time Trump does something shitty as president, I will be texting him what it was and why it's bad whether he likes it or not.

[-] Raiderkev@lemmy.world 3 points 2 hours ago

My dad died young. He was only 52. I like to think he wouldn't have been brainwashed by the qult, but honestly who knows? He was running in circles that are now full of trump clowns. He ran a construction company and was a registered Republican, but gave up on them after W and voted for Obama twice. I wonder how he would have reacted to this shit. I like to think he'd have been logical and stayed on the Dems side, but I always wonder if he'd have gone to the dark side. There's a real chance I wouldn't be talking to him right now if he did. I'm glad I never had to deal with it because I was very close to him. I feel for you OP.

[-] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 16 points 7 hours ago* (last edited 7 hours ago)

The good fight. Keeping majority voters accountable for the choices they impose on everyone else is as much a part of democracy as anything else, especially with candidates who actually deliver on the promises they make during elections.

God speed. I hope you can be reunited with your family again.

[-] iAmTheTot@sh.itjust.works 25 points 9 hours ago

My father and I became estranged about a decade before he passed, for reasons other than but similar to politics. Our world views just did not align and in ways that I could not ultimately forgive. We did not really ever reconcile before his passing and I don't regret it to this day. I don't believe in unconditional love and he did not earn mine, imho. I am estranged with most of my extended family for similar reasons. I'm not really willing to compromise certain morals.

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[-] EndlessNightmare@reddthat.com 2 points 5 hours ago

I am fortunate that there is no real family divide for me. I do have a few relatives who voted Trump, but I am not close to them.

Given that the rest of the family has cut them out (it was already underway, but this was the last straw), it's really nothing for me to do so as well.

[-] henfredemars@infosec.pub 30 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

I did in 2016. I was younger and angry at the world. That judgment is deserved. By 2020 I realized that I had made a terrible mistake and was sure not to repeat it. It’s good to read that you can at least understand the perspective of how someone could have at that time.

Some people never learn. This would appear to be the case for most Americans.

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[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 23 points 8 hours ago

We've already been through this. It's so very tiring. I'm over it. If you're a trump supporter, then fuck you. That's all. Goodbye.

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[-] ohellidk@sh.itjust.works 49 points 10 hours ago

they had every right to be frustrated with how things are, but this will not fix anything and they will find out very quickly. its a shame.

[-] ProgrammingSocks@pawb.social 46 points 10 hours ago

The problem with simply being "frustrated" about current material conditions is that frustration is unproductive. You have to channel it into something. If that "something" is fucking fascism, you're an evil person without morals. So while I understand how it happens I cannot absolve people of the crime of voting for an open fascist.

[-] TheBat@lemmy.world 3 points 5 hours ago

The problem with simply being "frustrated" about current material conditions is that frustration is unproductive.

In this case it is not just unproductive, it's destructive. American voters, especially those who voted for Biden last time chose to stay at home.

Biden administration was stumbling so the voters gave the keys to someone who's going to cut off both legs.

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