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Good thing they’re raising prices again!

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[–] PotjiePig@lemmy.world 45 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Lol I cancelled Netflix and returned to the high seas a little while ago. Turns out I don't even want to pirate Netflix shows either.

[–] WiseThat@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 years ago

This is the thing I'll never understand about the modern streaming industry's focus on watchtime and second-screen content.

Like, guys, spending your budget on a thing I am actively NOT engaged with as a consumer is not going to help your brand. Y'all got big on prestige TV, and the kind of shows where I go "Oh this looks really good, gonna make sure it's on my watchlist". That way I'm never gonna unsub as long as I have a watchlist, the actual hours spent on platform doesn't matter.

[–] netwren@lemmy.world 44 points 2 years ago (2 children)

They ruined my favorite show on Netflix by taking out Henry Cavil. So when they stopped account sharing I decided to not get an account and just stick with Hulu.

Might get rid of all the TV's out of the house anyway. Screw em all.

[–] Cockmaster6000@sh.itjust.works 59 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They didn't take him out, he quit because the writers were butchering the story

[–] OneOrTheOtherDontAskMe@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That is a grey area for me, mostly because of the statements made by the showrunners after his departure. When someone leaves a project they love dearly and promoted heavily and personally drove from the fan side of things, it makes me wonder whether it was an actual leaving or if they paid him handsomely to say he's leaving and to not badmouth the show in XYZ words or format.

[–] Buddahriffic@lemmy.world 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

That is possible, but that's also the type of person that would be most likely to leave a project because of creative differences.

Plus saying the writers were butchering the story isn't exactly a way for him to exit without making the show look bad. For hardcore fans, that's a sign that it might be better to just skip it or wait for reviews or pirate it specifically to avoid giving the makers money.

[–] whofearsthenight@lemm.ee 1 points 2 years ago

I mean, Hollywood is also built this way. People who shit on their productions have a harder time finding work. It's pretty difficult to find someone who overtly shits on a project, especially one that's come out in the last decade.

[–] VindictiveJudge@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It's the second time Henry Cavil has been perfectly cast for what was supposed to be a long running role and he didn't stick around. You've got to wonder if these people just don't understand what they have. And with Superman they literally just didn't offer the role again when they decided to reboot the movies (yet again).

[–] mikeboltonshair@sh.itjust.works 6 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I grew up with Christopher Reeves as Superman and I still think Cavill is the best Superman to ever be cast

[–] whofearsthenight@lemm.ee 3 points 2 years ago

...close second 😉

Them ditching Cavill is a fucking shame. Of course, probably never really writing him a good movie is the bigger shame.

[–] Not_Alec_Baldwin@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (4 children)

If you don't like the price hikes CANCEL YOUR SUBSCRIPTION.

Stop with all the belly aching. They cancel all the good shows early anyway. I killed my sub years ago and it's been a great choice.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 9 points 2 years ago

I cancelled my subscription when they stopped letting you share account login information.

[–] CH3DD4R_G0BL1N@sh.itjust.works 8 points 2 years ago

The increase in cancellations was the nail in the coffin for me. But my satisfaction started to decline when they ditched the star rating system. I don’t care how many people want to claim it didn’t work a specific way or wasn’t tailored to you, etc etc. it produced many good recommendation for me with insane accuracy across the whole 5* spectrum. The binary system was, and I assume still is, shit.

[–] profoundninja@sh.itjust.works 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Sense 8 and the OA deserved better, non subscriber, happy pirate since.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

The OA was so good and then just evaporated.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world -1 points 2 years ago

I don't mind price hikes, because the money spent is still worth it to me (I have like 5 streaming subscriptions), but Netflix is among the worst for just usability.

It's often more difficult to find content on Netflix than it is to just search on my TV and click to the content from there.

Raising prices is fine if your product is competitive enough, but I've considered canceling Netflix just because it kinda sucks to use. Somewhere along the line, they stopped focusing on UX.

[–] Rawdogg@lemm.ee 19 points 2 years ago

Lots of companies lately just foot to the floor with enshitification

[–] bionicjoey@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There was a decent chunk of time, maybe the last decade, where Netflix successfully followed the Gabe Newell ethos: "you have to compete with free". Unfortunately, all of the media giants have caught on now to the lucrativeness of streaming and are trying to take away all of the shows and movies that drew people to Netflix in the first place.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 3 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Right. It's not really Netflix's fault that all the studios are pulling their shows from the platform. The studios are going full crazy again.

[–] whofearsthenight@lemm.ee 5 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I mean, sure, but it is Netflix's fault that their strategy to fill that void is to produce garbage. Netflix saw this coming and started making original content. So they made a ton of stuff, but it's really, really tough to think of anything that was as influential as the stuff that was considered b-tier on HBO, for example.

It's hard to think of many things that Netflix has produced that are actually any good. Movies, in particular, they bring in these massive stars for the most schlocky bullshit imaginable. Even things like Witcher, which at least counts as a cult hilt, they managed to shit the bed on because the show being any good seems to have happened in spite of the writers and people in charge of it.

Tbh, when people talk about AI in creative activities, it's pretty easy to think about quite a lot of the shit Netflix churns out. Just about everything I watch that's Netflix Original really feels like it's written by an LLM.

[–] Anticorp@lemmy.ml 2 points 2 years ago

Stranger Things was really popular. I enjoyed The Map of Small Perfect Things a lot. Otherwise, yes, their stuff is pretty bad. The Adam Sandler movies are terrible.

[–] iforgotmyinstance@lemmy.world 15 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Why do they insist on crunching their existing customers instead of attracting new customers?

[–] giantofthenorth@lemm.ee 12 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I haven't looked into them, but I'd bet they're just in a both mature and oversaturated market. There's not much they can do to gain new people, everyone knows what Netflix is across all first world markets and a corpo won't care about the others.

[–] iforgotmyinstance@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

Sure. I haven't paid for Netflix in my life (mid 30s male, American), and at this rate I don't see myself doing so. My wife and I plan to do a free trial and watch Castlevanias new series one of these weekends.

[–] hansl@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Basically. They’re becoming the Comcast of streaming. And Comcast isn’t exactly high on customer satisfaction.

People throw enshittification, but that ain’t it. They’re not screwing their investors. They just don’t have room to grow and need to reorg to survive.

[–] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

They chose how they wanted to grow. They didn't do it slowly these last few years with quality content and well thought out production time lines. They pumped their platform with more. And more. And more. They chose quantity over quality and that is their choice. It then becomes the choice of the customer of they feel the money is worth it. Simple as that.

[–] SCB@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago

They were kind of in a no-win situation for a while with content (either good content that couldn't retain subs or floods of good/bad content that, probably, did retain subs but lowered the bar).

Now that their library at least exists, one would hope they'd shift investment to both UX and diving headfirst into quality to try to compete at some level with Amazon's capex spend. Sure lots of people online didn't like LoTR but it's a flagship example of good use of capital, and the show was highly streamed - Wheel of Time Season 2 being another good, perhaps even better example, given the turnaround from S1.

[–] YeetPics@mander.xyz 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm guessing Elon stealth-bought Netflix and is speedrunning company destruction again. It's the only thing I can think of that makes sense.

[–] Not_Alec_Baldwin@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

They dominated the market. Their model REQUIRES growth to continue for it to make sense (stock ponzi) so they need to find ways to promise profits to shareholders.

They can't easily attract new customers so instead they are obligated to squeeze existing customers.

[–] ieightpi@lemmy.world 14 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Huh well why aren't people just canceling their subscription? I heard that after Password crackdown happened, subscriptions went up. If people aren't satisfied with Netflix, there are tons of options now. Not that we want that many.

[–] reddig33@lemmy.world 28 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Doing a little digging showed that subscriptions went up in cheaper developing markets. It was spin/pr.

[–] EdibleFriend@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

and countries that have fewer options right? Like i know Hulu is basically only the US..

[–] RampageDon@lemmy.ml 19 points 2 years ago

I think it's one of those we are only giving you one statistic to make it look favorable things. As a whole at least in the US Netflix revenue went down by 2 or 3 million from the previous year. Their number of accounts is going up, but if you look at where, it is in developing countries in Africa.

[–] BlinkerFluid@lemmy.one 3 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I just pirate everything. Works for me.

not everyone can do that

can =/= won't

[–] Send_me_nude_girls@feddit.de 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Good. I still hate how Netflix doesn't bother to buy the final season of Snowrunner. I guess it's not important to them if Netflix USA didn't have the show to begin with. Or The OA, or 1899, or altered carbon. As consumer I don't care if it's Netflix original or not, I pay for it and you lured me in with it, so it's their responsibility to deliver season finals. Well anyways since they stopped account sharing we cancelled anyways, as it was just a flat price increase for no gain.

[–] Franzia@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

The value of my Netflix subscription has gone down tremendously. There used to be anchor shows that would keep me excited to log on to each of these services. Now HBO canceled Vice, Vice News, Vice on Hulu, Vice on Showtime. Another issue is shows that go south. I used to be really excited for Bill Maher. Not anymore, it's a slog to watch. And the Witcher. And Game of Thrones. On Netflix I was genuinely excited for so many new projects. All gone. Everything I watch now is so fucking mid and forgettable.

I went over to youtube, and while its provided better for me, most of my favorite creators end up moving on. So now I mostly watch Nebula. Its so much cheaper. But it doesn't have the vast content that Netflix has.

[–] Holyginz@lemmy.world 7 points 2 years ago

I have had zero desire to use Netflix for years. I used it to watch older shows and movies so when they started losing those and making half-assed original stuff I canceled my subscription and haven't missed it one bit.

[–] Arethusa@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

Hahahahahahahaha haha. Falling to sixth place in customer satisfaction but rising to first place as a new endless source of laughter. A laughingstock for sure.

Yeah, sixth place among companies named "Netflix".