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[-] FigMcLargeHuge@sh.itjust.works 166 points 1 year ago

Last line of the article: "Just like choosing not to ride on airplanes isn’t really an option, for many, using social media isn’t much of a choice either."

Holy crap. We have reached that point. As someone with no social media, it just amazes me how people have let these apps become ingrained in their lives. Sad in my opinion.

[-] Blizzard@lemmy.zip 70 points 1 year ago

someone with no social media

Doesn't Lemmy qualify? Well, it's definitely not paid.

[-] FigMcLargeHuge@sh.itjust.works 60 points 1 year ago

Depends. Everyone claims they are on social media platforms to stay in touch with family and friends. I know no one on here and am fine with the anonymity. So it's up to you if you count this.

[-] rikudou 33 points 1 year ago

I personally never counted Reddit and am not counting Lemmy as a social media. Both Reddit and Lemmy are just a really huge forum which contains many subforums.

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[-] ericisshort@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

But you are still socializing with us despite not knowing our real names, so this and Reddit would definitely qualify as social platforms. Twitter was also mostly anonymous for its 16 years prior to Elon, and it has definitely always been considered social media.

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[-] justhach@lemmy.world 32 points 1 year ago

Last line of the article: "Just like choosing not to ride on airplanes isn’t really an option, for many, using social media isn’t much of a choice either."

That, and not only is not riding on an airplans an option for a lot of people, its their reality for a lot of people and out of reach financially. Way to be completely out of touch, Gizmodo. Couldn't have used a worse example lol.

[-] anlumo@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I think it’s referring to flights required (and paid) by your job. When a job of mine required me to be in Brussels in two days, I couldn’t tell them that I‘m hitchhiking there for the next month instead.

[-] TanakaAsuka@sh.itjust.works 18 points 1 year ago

I think you're misreading it. In the same way as there are people that need to ride on planes (for example for their job, or to move to where they have a job, etc), there are people that need to use social media.

For example, if you own an online store you really need to have a social media presence. Same if you are an artist, and live off of commissions. I'm sure there are plenty more examples.

[-] TurboDiesel@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Also, Facebook groups are now how most extracurriculars are handled in schools, so if you have kids and you want to be involved in their activities you don't have much of an option.

[-] HurlingDurling@lemm.ee 7 points 1 year ago

I think the author might be referring to businesses who use social media to reach and connect with customers, however if your customers don't see a value in paying for social media they won't use it and it won't be that necessary for those small and medium businesses.

[-] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Yeah that's one of the stupidest comparisons that they could make. Transportation is a necessity, sharing what you're doing to the entire world isn't a necessity. I'm 37 and grew up with MySpace and I was part of Facebook back when it was still The Facebook and was only open to 4 years universities (I got in about 2 years after I was created).

I wouldn't give two shits if every social media company was destroyed tomorrow, including Lemmy and Reddit. They're just time killers to me.

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[-] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 78 points 1 year ago

I love the idea of paid social media.

Theres so few people who'd pay for it that all the social media companies would, hopefully, collapse and cure us of one of the worst technoplagues of the 21st century.

[-] realitista@lemm.ee 17 points 1 year ago

I'd pay some reasonable subscription, say $1 a month to the maintainer of lemm.ee for the promise to keep my data safe. To Zuck and Elon absolutely not.

[-] h3mlocke@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

I pay like $2 or $3 a month to lemm.ee dev, its worth it to me.

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[-] Sgt_choke_n_stroke@lemmy.world 53 points 1 year ago

Imagine paying a company, who sells your data, to see memes

[-] tacosplease@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

Fine. But imagining it is as far as I will go.

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[-] rikudou 47 points 1 year ago

Well, Fediverse it is. When thousand people pay for thousand servers, it's better for everyone - no ads and no fees and the ones hosting the content don't need the money to survive. Some people will voluntarily donate to you, most will not, but in the end everyone is happy.

[-] GenderNeutralBro@lemmy.sdf.org 26 points 1 year ago

It works for Wikipedia, which is probably the single most important site on the Internet.

It also works for podcasts, well enough to produce an enormous amount of high-quality content, both from independent productions and networks.

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[-] Sterile_Technique@lemmy.world 42 points 1 year ago

*looks around at Lemmy*

I love y'all.

[-] huginn@feddit.it 20 points 1 year ago

... but also pay to support your instance. Don't be a leech.

[-] Arthur_Leywin@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Yo can you spot me for a few months?

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[-] darkmogool@feddit.de 26 points 1 year ago

To be fair, you always paid it... just not with money...

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 25 points 1 year ago

I refuse to be both.

You want me to dodge ads and try to scrape my data from your service in order to use it? Fine.

Want me to pay for the service? Maybe…

I will not support double dipping while pushing ads in my face. Fuck right off.

[-] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

I remember when cable tv first started the big promise was that since you were paying for it the cable channels would be ad free. Well that lasted about a week.

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[-] Player2@sopuli.xyz 25 points 1 year ago

Yet another reason not to use that stuff, as if we needed more

[-] SkyNTP@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Would you be opposed to paying to use Lemmy? Someone's gotta pay them bills. Currently it seems to be donation focused, but that might not scale. So what's it going to be Player2@sopuli.xyz, ads, or a "premium Lemmy subscription"/tax/due/contribution?

[-] spudwart@spudwart.com 17 points 1 year ago

Some run the servers with the expectation of donations. Some run them at a loss. Some of us selfhost.

There are all a variety of ways to keep Lemmy free, where as Reddit is hosted by Reddit. They decide everything about Reddit.

[-] ram@bookwormstory.social 4 points 1 year ago

You can set up a Lemmy instance with just a docker file lmao it's not exactly a large scale operation to upkeep.
If somehow every Lemmy instance went paid only, I'd host my own instance and invite my friends to use it too.

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[-] lobut@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 year ago

I worry that donations may not be enough and people say that it's not expensive to run. Regardless, I don't think they're forcing me to identify myself and building profiles on me to sell to the highest bidder. I'll pay Lemmy for that.

If I pay Facebook and Reddit they'll do both even if they say otherwise because I believe they lack ethics.

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[-] ArcaneSlime@lemmy.dbzer0.com 20 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

As in "they pay me to use their garbage?"

If else: "No."

Know what? "Still no." I already don't use it for free, they're gonna have to pay me substantially before I use it.

[-] 2deck@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

Agreed! Join me in the real world, it's free.

[-] oakey66@lemmy.world 17 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If they didn’t farm data and charged for it right in the beginning, maybe it would have lasted longer before turning to shit. But demanding payment while farming data is just insane.

Not to mention that they chose the absolute worst time to do this. They are just absolutely despised right now. They are either in the midst of scandal or scandal is just in their rearview. Why would anyone pay for this right now?

[-] militaryintelligence@lemmy.world 16 points 1 year ago

Not exactly. It's the age of stockholders, and doing what's best for them is the law. They expect unlimited growth

[-] SocialMediaRefugee@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

Airline seats could be fixed if the gov had any backbone but social media isn't some essential service so good luck with it.

[-] Pxtl@lemmy.ca 7 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Social media has a natural moat because what matters it what users are there. As long as social media sites don't federate with each other, there will be an evolutionary pressure to start exploiting and get progressively worse as your users are locked-in and you can exploit them for the profit of your shareholders.

Paying improves the situation because the users are customers and not eyeballs to sell, but still -- they're there for their friends and follows. If they can't get those same friends and follows on another site, you can screw them as hard as you like.

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[-] autotldr 6 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


On Tuesday, the Wall Street Journal reported that Meta plans to charge European users $17 a month for an ad-free version of Instagram and Facebook.

Meta joins TikTok, which confirmed it’s testing its own ad-free subscription plan Monday after Android Authority found a prompt for a $4.99 service buried in the app’s code.

X, the platform formerly known as Twitter, has its famous $8-a-month blue check mark (which also comes with fewer ads and other dubious features), and anyone who isn’t already paying YouTube is familiar with its promotions for the $13.99 ad-free experience.

There’s no word from TikTok about its fledgling subscription tests, but the comments sections on videos about the app’s premium plan are full of users who say they’d love to sign up.

This is a radical departure from the business model that ran social media for the past few decades, where you offer your eyeballs to the advertising gods in exchange for free connections to friends and content creators.

Over the last twenty years, airlines have found ways to charge customers for options that used to be free, including checked bags, seat selection, and priority boarding.


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[-] RobotToaster@mander.xyz 5 points 1 year ago

Facebook has been slowly becoming worse, I don't know if it's the algorithm just not showing me stuff I'm interested in, or all the people that posted interesting stuff left, but I'm using it less and less.

Reddit's quality has gone downhill, lemmy is okay but still small.

[-] small44@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

The algorithm is really trash. I interact with a posts once then the algorithm think i want to see more for days or even weeks. One of my passion is to listen to unpopular hip hop artists yet the algorithm only shows mainstream artists and not even posts about their music but about their personal life instead. I'm glad they added a chronological feed. There's a couple of facebook groups that are interesting like a group about my neighbourhood group or the running group of my city ,it's also great to find local events

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