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FDA employees consider how to handle RFK Jr., including leaving (www.nbcnews.com)
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[-] iamjackflack@lemm.ee 24 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

I hate how every time this shit happens everyone jumps ship and just makes room for evil to backfill where possible. People stand your fucking ground and force these people out or make their lives miserable. Fight back!

Stop making it easy for them and allowing them to win at every turn!!

[-] phoneymouse@lemmy.world 8 points 2 hours ago

Once I interned in Washington DC.. you start to understand the mindset there. Everyone all over the US blames DC for the dysfunction in our government. However, the opposite is true, you people sent these dysfunctional people to DC, so really it’s your fault.

Same thinking here. Most government bureaucrats are well-educated caring individuals who are really passionate about their subject area. Expecting them to tolerate a toxic workplace because the American people can’t choose competent leaders is unfair.

[-] misterundercoat@lemmy.world 22 points 5 hours ago

How is it a government employee's responsibility to "fight back" when the voters insist on installing the worst person as their boss? This is literally what the voters chose.

If the smart career employees want to get out while they can, more power to them. It's not their job to fight the will of millions of idiots.

[-] iamjackflack@lemm.ee 0 points 4 hours ago

So just because we lose you can’t do anything within your power about it? Way to roll over and die just because you lose an election.

[-] weirdboy@lemm.ee 6 points 4 hours ago* (last edited 4 hours ago)

Meanwhile if the same guy showed up on lemmy telling you how much their corporate job sucks and their boss is completely clueless, everyone would pile on to say they should quit.

[-] misterundercoat@lemmy.world 2 points 3 hours ago

Exactly. Imagine I'm a competent professional, just minding my own business and being good at my job, and suddenly I'm asked to become some kind of resistance hero and risk my career, my livelihood, and my family's future. Meanwhile, all around me I see the worst people installed in power and are actively looting and destroying my organization.

I could do that, or I could jump ship and make a decent living somewhere else.

The choice is simple, for those that have that opportunity.

[-] gamermanh@lemmy.dbzer0.com 1 points 3 hours ago

What, you're not willing to traumatize (or for those of us who have already had to fight evil from an incompetent boss RELIVE our trauma) yourself for the 5 minutes of delay it'll earn? What a coward you must be!

[-] Dashi@lemmy.world 6 points 3 hours ago

Why don't you go get a job in the FDA and fight?

[-] Juigi@lemm.ee 0 points 3 hours ago

Any texas medical personnel here?

[-] dylanmorgan@slrpnk.net 30 points 12 hours ago

I feel like every member of HHS and other agencies should agree to just scream “GET FUCKED, BRAIN WORM” any time he says anything until they are fired or he quits.

[-] SarcasticMan@lemmy.world 95 points 15 hours ago

Normally I would say mass exit with a big middle finger to the voters is the way to go here, but these guys could probably keep their jobs and the status quo by gaslighting that dumb son of a bitch.

[-] frustrated_phagocytosis@fedia.io 30 points 13 hours ago

Yes, slow walk everything. Just act like you, too, have brain worms

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 53 points 15 hours ago

If you want to see what resigning out of protest or fear from far right extremists leads to...

Look up the KKK's role in ending reconstruction, and what happened to the American South when anyone who wasn't racist was afraid to vote let alone hold position in government.

Giving up is rarely the right move, and federal employees have one of the strongest unions in America and it's comically hard to be fired unless you're a political appointee.

And that is entirely intentional and for this exact scenario.

Resigning just makes it easier for them for no reason. It concentrates the shitty employees who will go along with anything, and it shrinks the federal government when they don't try to restaff

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 20 points 14 hours ago

it's comically hard to be fired unless you're a political appointee.

Didn't they change the rules to count many more jobs as political appointees without protections right at the end of Trump's term, only to have Biden change it back? Trump is definitely doing that again.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 8 points 14 hours ago

That still covered the very top of departments, not entire agency workforces

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 6 points 14 hours ago

Ah. I wasn't aware of that. It still sucks, but maybe for the folks who are left and still protected by the union some malicious compliance is in order.

[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 12 points 14 hours ago

In this scenario malicious compliance is doing your job properly and efficiently.

[-] Zaktor@sopuli.xyz 29 points 14 hours ago

Yeah, stay. Occupy space. Drag your feet. Misinterpret instructions. Double and triple check them through slow back and forths. Just keep doing your real job until the idiots can get things in order through the bureaucracy to fire you. It'll probably be a while, if ever.

[-] LaVacaMariposa@mander.xyz 3 points 5 hours ago

I can't believe these dumbasses are making me hope for MORE bureaucracy

[-] Kalkaline@leminal.space 43 points 14 hours ago

I don't understand why foreign countries aren't scooping up this knowledge base. The brain drain in the USA is going to be so quick under this second Trump administration.

[-] beansbeansbeans@lemmy.world 1 points 3 hours ago

They are. For example, the UK offers a High Potential Individual visa for recent graduates of prestigious universities. I'm sure they'll get more applications this year.

[-] VolumetricShitCompressor@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 5 hours ago

I wonder if this will be the next WW2-scale brain drain like what happened in Nazi Germany.

[-] 0x0@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 13 hours ago

This is not a place for smart people

[-] WalnutLum@lemmy.ml 3 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Unfortunately as long as the US remains the global financial hegemon through the dollar, it'll continue to be the most lucrative place to obtain assets globally.

Double Unfortunately the dollar is probably going to reach 1985 plaza accords levels of strength vs other currencies, but without the global economy working together to help the US like it did before.

An overly strong dollar will likely destroy the US's ability to export goods.

[-] loutr@sh.itjust.works 5 points 10 hours ago

My friend is pretty smart and he left France to work in the US a while ago. He's pretty pissed at the election though, and afraid especially since his wife is black. He's seriously considering moving back to France.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 5 hours ago

He should do more than consider. Especially because of his wife.

[-] Hideakikarate@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 hours ago

I fear we're quickly becoming the next Sentinel Island, but not by choice.

[-] wjs018@lemmy.world 17 points 14 hours ago

I work in pharma, regularly writing and filing things with the FDA (and other agencies), and this has been a topic of conversation at work. The good news for people is that the EMA is still a thing in the EU. So, at least the large pharma companies (like the one I work for), are likely to not really change much about their quality control/processes/etc. because we will still need to conform to the EMA guidelines which are typically in line with the current FDA (sometimes more strict, sometimes less so). The real quality concern would be smaller companies that only file for products in the US. They would only need to meet whatever new FDA guidelines come into effect (if they even do, changing stuff like GMP guidance is extremely complicated and time consuming) since the US is their only market.

[-] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 3 points 12 hours ago

Until Trump bans exporting medication.

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