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Summary

Vivek Ramaswamy, recently appointed to lead the Department of Government Efficiency (DOGE), has proposed defunding federal programs that lack current congressional authorization.

This could affect programs like veterans’ healthcare, NASA, and early education initiatives, which still receive funding despite expired authorizations.

Ramaswamy argues that cutting these programs could save billions, and he’s committed to targeting expenditures that “don’t advance the interests of American citizens.”

DOGE, co-led by Elon Musk, aims to curb government spending, with Musk estimating potential cuts of up to $2 trillion.

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[-] dan1101@lemm.ee 12 points 1 hour ago

Any woman or veteran or union worker who voted for Trump is going to have a serious case of buyers remorse. I am none of those things but still voted for Harris because it seemed like the responsible thing to do, lesser of two evils. Way lesser it seems.

[-] aceshigh@lemmy.world 2 points 48 minutes ago

Buyers remorse or will they blame someone else?

[-] pearsaltchocolatebar@discuss.online 0 points 14 minutes ago

They'll blame democrats like always

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 47 minutes ago

Could you picture that little runt Ramaswami in basic training? He'd wash out on the first day.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 3 points 1 hour ago

“This bloated liberal socialist program is inefficient and doesn’t work. Because it’s liberal and socialist. So we’re going to get rid of it. We’re planing to plan a replacement plan, but we haven’t planned on when to plan it. But we’ll blame the libs for that too, even though we have essentially captured all branches of the government at this point.”

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 0 points 1 hour ago

And people will eat it the fuck up like the hogs they are

[-] thatKamGuy@sh.itjust.works 6 points 1 hour ago

Part of me, as an outsider looking in with abject horror, wants to see this happen just because I still hold out hope that it might finally wake up a not-insignificant part of rural and rust-belt America that live off these benefits (or ‘handouts’ according to the GOP) out of their political stupor.

But on the other hand, I know that once it’s gone, it’s very unlikely to be brought back in the immediate future by the current crop of Dems, who seemingly would rather keep dangling it as a carrot (along with restoring ablation access) in order to entice voter turnout.

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 hour ago

Just know that there are people in the US that feel the same. And it's horrifying.

[-] danc4498@lemmy.world 15 points 2 hours ago

Save billions on essentials while spending trillions in bullshit.

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 21 points 3 hours ago

Remember when if you didn't "support our troops," Republicans would ask you why you hated America?

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 hour ago

They confirmed, for anyone paying attention, that that was always performative bullshit.

[-] pyre@lemmy.world 12 points 3 hours ago

they just want Russia to be the top superpower

[-] FloppyFlounder8@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 3 hours ago

Not for millenia would I have realized that Department of Government Efficiency stood for DoGE. What a funny little boy Elon is.

[-] pineapple_pizza@lemmy.dexlit.xyz 16 points 7 hours ago

Okay I agree with the other comments here but I'm a bit confused on this.

How are we still spending money on these things if congress doesn't approve it? The legislature sets the budget, did they just forget to make it official and extend these? Also why even have a phase out period in the first place?

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 10 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I think it's because there is a difference between the Budget and Appropriations in Congress. The budget is a plan, where programs are authorized and an overall budget is set. The appropriations process is what assigns particular dollars to particular discretionary programs. (Certain programs deemed "mandatory" by Congress, like Social Security, Medicare, and interest on the debt, get allocated money automatically and are not involved in appropriations)

If I had to guess, I would say that once a program is authorized once under a budget, it can continue as long as it (or the Federal department it is part of) is not specifically de-authorized, and as long as it continues to receive appropriations specifically for that program.

So, it is likely that this is all about Ramaswamy's total ignorance of how Congress works. Which tracks pretty well with what this DOGE is all about.

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 hour ago

So, it is likely that this is all about Ramaswamy's total ignorance of how Congress works. Which tracks pretty well with what this DOGE is all about

How Congress worked.

[-] dhork@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

It still works that way, until the rules change. Republicans have the votes to change how Congress works, if they act in unison. But they will have just a slim a margin as last time, and they had trouble electing a Speaker. Even in the next Congress, they needed a secret vote to elect the Senate Majority Leader because they didn't want any receipts on who voted for whom to make it back to Dear Leader.

It is possible that the Republican Party turns into a oroboros of spite, eating itself from within because of perceived grievances. That might be the best possible outcome we can hope for.

[-] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 50 minutes ago* (last edited 46 minutes ago)

Did the rules need to change to allow a convicted felon to become President? Why would they need to change for anything else?

Fascism means "might makes right," and Trump will be commander in chief of the US Military. Which, by the way, is larger than the next 9 largest combined (I believe, gonna double check real quick)

Edit: yarp. Next ten countries combined actually: https://www.pgpf.org/chart-archive/0053_defense-comparison

[-] fadingembers@lemmy.blahaj.zone 28 points 9 hours ago

I am terrified at them defunding the VA. I've had a much easier time getting good medical care from VA doctors than I ever did going private and I'd be bankrupt without the VA. It's because of the VA that I have any savings at all

[-] USSEthernet@startrek.website 5 points 2 hours ago

Agreed. They must have gotten better in the last decade too, because I don't see the horrible things that people have said about the VA. Yes there are long wait times for appointments, but that's happening in private care now as well.

[-] Etterra@lemmy.world 5 points 6 hours ago

I'm sure that'll be popular and there won't be any repercussions and that unicorns will poop free candy for everyone.

[-] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago

Sorry, but that unicorn is illegal and should be deported!

[-] ripcord@lemmy.world 8 points 5 hours ago* (last edited 5 hours ago)

Doesn't matter. Everyone enjoys their face being eaten. They can blame it on the damn (outgroup) and feel better about themselves. Rage and being better than some other tribe is all that matters anymore.

[-] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 14 points 8 hours ago

We can't be taking care of Veterans that is way to decent of a thing to do for Republicans.

[-] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 109 points 11 hours ago

As a US citizen, paying for veterans healthcare and early education programs advance my interests a whole fucking lot more than paying this jackass.

Stupid piece of shit, you don't speak for us.

[-] krashmo@lemmy.world 33 points 11 hours ago

I know what you mean but he does, quite literally, speak for us now. This is what we asked for.

[-] Cris_Color@lemmy.world 49 points 10 hours ago

I sure as fuck didn't, I voted against every single fascist asshole on my balot. I'm just angry.

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[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 10 points 7 hours ago

I'm sure this will help with the dramatic drop in people willing to volunteer for the army.

[-] GoodEye8@lemm.ee 9 points 7 hours ago

Nice of you to assume you won't get mandatory military service.

[-] WindyRebel@lemmy.world 1 points 59 minutes ago

Cool. And when EVERYONE is in the military, pissed, and unified with all of the guns and training? Oh, they can ordered, but orders can be ignored when enough people just say…nah, I’m getting fucked so I won’t do it until you do something for me - whatcha gonna do about it?

[-] queermunist@lemmy.ml 6 points 7 hours ago

They stopped drafting people for a reason.

Maybe they forgot? Guess we'll have to remind them.

[-] knightly@pawb.social 3 points 2 hours ago

90% of folks can't be trained to kill.

Half of the remainder would rather frag their own commanding officers than some poor foreign kid.

[-] Docus@lemmy.world 2 points 2 hours ago

103% of statistics are made up on the spot.

[-] MagicShel@lemmy.zip 129 points 12 hours ago

As someone with just as much federal authority as the non-existent DOGE, I also propose defunding expenditures that “don’t advance the interests of American citizens.”

And I would like to start with fucking Vivek Ramaswamy and Elon fucking Musk.

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