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Stephen Moore, a senior economic adviser to US president-elect Donald Trump, urged the UK to adopt the US “free enterprise” model over Europe’s “more socialist” system, suggesting it would enhance the Trump administration’s “willingness” to pursue a UK-US trade deal.

Moore also defended US agricultural practices and Trump’s proposed 10% blanket import tariff, noting possible exemptions for allies like the UK.

UK leaders, including Keir Starmer, face pressure to balance trade ties with both the EU and US, with figures like Peter Mandelson advocating dual trade agreements amid Brexit challenges.

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[-] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 4 points 6 hours ago

Cancers metastasize.

[-] Skydancer@pawb.social 19 points 14 hours ago

Uh, Socialism please.

"Well we're all out of Socialism. We only had three bits and we didn't expect such a rush. So whaddaya want?"

What, so my choice is "or US free enterprise"?

[-] plzExplainNdetail@slrpnk.net 3 points 14 hours ago

Oh ..well.. then I'll have the chicken.

[-] Skydancer@pawb.social 2 points 14 hours ago

"Tastes of human sir. Would you like a white wine?"

[-] fox2263@lemmy.world 21 points 17 hours ago

Trumps knowledge of the EU is solely what Farage tells him. Or should I say, whispers to him after rubbing his belly.

[-] Rice_Daddy@lemmy.world 26 points 18 hours ago

I don't mind working with the US even with Trump leading, but the EU is clearly a natural partner. They're right at our doorstep.

[-] filister@lemmy.world 23 points 21 hours ago

What is more worrying is what Trump thinks of the EU. This guy is a threat to democracy and international law.

And the worst is that much of the democratic party is shifting more to the right in their pursuit of voters.

This world is completely screwed with politicians like Trump in power.

[-] assassinatedbyCIA@lemmy.world 4 points 12 hours ago

And the worst is that much of the democratic party is shifting more to the right in their pursuit of voters.

In there pursuit of being a more effective controlled opposition. Voters didn’t ask for this. Harris ran a conservative campaign and loss on that. Don’t let the democrats blame the left for their loss.

[-] rammer@sopuli.xyz 8 points 19 hours ago

Yeah, of the world's leaders vast majority of them are dictators or wannabe dictators. Trump, Putin, Xi Jinping, Modi, Netanyahu, Erdoğan, Orban and the list goes on.

[-] sparky@lemmy.federate.cc 34 points 22 hours ago

It’s time for another episode of “Everything I Don’t Like Is Socialism” with Donnie Temper Tantrum!

[-] random_character_a@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago

Poor can work at the Mar-a-Lago for food or die in a gutter. That's the American way.

[-] 9point6@lemmy.world 43 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Americans talking about socialism is like teenagers talking about sex

Zero clue

[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 108 points 1 day ago

Pick socialism, dont fall for it. Dont become corporate property. Dont let them own the world.

[-] floofloof@lemmy.ca 46 points 1 day ago

Socialism isn't even on offer these days. What Republicans consider socialist stretches all the way from communism to conservatism.

[-] lnxtx@feddit.nl 84 points 1 day ago

TIL I live in socialist EU.

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 12 points 23 hours ago

Article 3 (3) TEU:

The Union shall establish an internal market. It shall work for the sustainable development of Europe based on balanced economic growth and price stability, a highly competitive social market economy, aiming at full employment and social progress, and a high level of protection and improvement of the quality of the environment. It shall promote scientific and technological advance.

Emphasis mine. In a nutshell a social market economy is a Realpolitik compromise between capitalism and market socialism, where private ownership of the means of production is tolerated but said ownership doesn't entail complete power over it, through e.g. co-determination laws.

To make this more concrete, and maybe blow some Yank's mind: Volkswagen's employees elect 50% - 1 seats on the board. Together with shares held by Lower Saxony (usually run by a socdem government) they run the place, no matter how many shares the Porsche/Piëch clan and the Saudis have. It's why VW itself worked towards unionising its own plant in Chattanooga, to the bewilderment of many. Sadly can't unionise the plants in China the CCP hates it when workers have a say.

[-] wabafee@lemmy.world 8 points 16 hours ago

Ironic for China to not like unions.

[-] deadbeef79000@lemmy.nz 2 points 6 hours ago

OMG they cat even communist properly.

[-] barsoap@lemm.ee 3 points 13 hours ago

Tankies gonna tank.

[-] Twitches@lemm.ee 12 points 1 day ago
[-] Jumi@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago

Must be a different EU

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

TIL I'm emigrating to socialist EU.

No, the UK isn't in the EU. Unless I'm misremembering your posts

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

I realize this. I was joking that the UK isn't going to take up Trump's economic model. It isn't going to be like the EU either.

[-] samus12345@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

"C'mon, guys, be fascist like us!"

[-] Railison@aussie.zone 30 points 1 day ago

The US seems perfectly happy with socialism … for its corporate sector

[-] DarkDarkHouse@lemmy.sdf.org 15 points 23 hours ago

Privatised profits, socialised losses.

[-] brucethemoose@lemmy.world 56 points 1 day ago

Remember how great Brexit was, they say.

[-] fluxion@lemmy.world 20 points 1 day ago

Yes UK is an economic powerhouse now thanks Brexit

[-] lemmus@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago

Britannia rules the waves.

[-] Saleh@feddit.org 48 points 1 day ago

I strongly recommend the UK focus on the US as a trading partner. It is obviously more sensible to ship your imports and exports to and from a market some 5000 km away, than to the market just 50 km away. Clearly your population will love fruits being either 2 weeks old at least or flown in. That fits the english taste best anyways.

[-] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 16 points 1 day ago

Not to forget going with an ally as stable and consistent as Trump and his pack. I hope Britains like extortion.

[-] SaltySalamander@fedia.io 7 points 1 day ago
[-] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 1 day ago

Slightly drunk, but I appreciate it 💖

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[-] penquin@lemm.ee 37 points 1 day ago

Oh boy, he's going after the NHS like he tried a couple of years ago. Brits need to fight this and don't fall for our predatory private healthcare system that prioritizes money over human lives.

[-] cyborganism@lemmy.ca 21 points 1 day ago

"US economic model."

It's capitalism. Unfettered capitalism.

[-] a9249@lemmy.ca 16 points 1 day ago

So either embrace corporatism or be branded a commie he means?

[-] wewbull@feddit.uk 9 points 1 day ago

I'll take the branding.

[-] AllNewTypeFace@leminal.space 7 points 1 day ago

They’ll choose Trumpism. Starmer inherited the legacy of the Brexit referendum, and if he’s seen as veering towards the European approach, the oligarch-owned press will have his guts for garters and Nigel Farage in No. 10. As such, he’ll have no choice but to make a speech acknowledging this and rejecting the European approach in principle.

[-] Rice_Daddy@lemmy.world 3 points 18 hours ago

I really really hope you're wrong.

[-] qyron@sopuli.xyz 10 points 1 day ago

Oh no... he's off to try and sell bleach washed chicken again to the brits.

[-] Bonesince1997@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Mob of bullies. These guys came into power last time telling people, "we won't tell you how to live, and you won't tell us how to live." Look at em now. LOL

[-] 5714@lemmy.dbzer0.com 7 points 1 day ago

As an EU-citizen, I feel like this is a UK decision and not a US decision.

[-] qyron@sopuli.xyz 14 points 1 day ago

You remember what the brits chose the last time they had the opportunity to do so?

[-] dlatch@lemmy.world 11 points 1 day ago

I was going to say: "no way they'd be that stupid again", but then again the US just elected Trump for a second time so who knows

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