Adult people are entitled to make their own decisions under the FAFO maxim.
Your opinion on it is just that, an opinion. As far as idiotic shit to do, this is mid tier. You still got your daughter etc. focus on that.
Adult people are entitled to make their own decisions under the FAFO maxim.
Your opinion on it is just that, an opinion. As far as idiotic shit to do, this is mid tier. You still got your daughter etc. focus on that.
Idiotic? This is a low tier mistake. Everyone wins regardless. The only thing she loses is the ability to marry someone her age and enjoy youthful things together with them. Just because she’s married doesn’t mean she can’t go off on her own to have fun.
City girls just seem to find out early
How to open doors with just a smile
A rich old man, and she won't have to worry
She'll dress up all in lace go in style
You are assuming there won't be a negative externality resulting from this behavior, I give you 99% chance there will be issues.
Half the people can't maintain "normal" marriage with proper "feels" lol
In that case, at worst she walks from the marriage with nothing more than she entered into it with. Mundane daily issues are going to hit all relationships, so I don’t think that’s something to worry about. Conservatively, he divorces her and she walks with half of the investment income he accrued during the marriage. At best, she walks with half. That doesn’t take into consideration that she’ll have most certainly gotten (or shared) a car, a house, and food paid for the duration.
This is very transaction approach, I don';t think human relationships work like this even in pure business situations tbh
Maybe that's just me.
Every relationship had a mental cost, some good and so not so good.
I’d work on processing my feelings and sorting them into helpful to express, necessary to express, and unhelpful and unnecessary to express
Do you trust your daughter’s ethics and willingness to prioritize her happiness? If not that should be your concern, otherwise learning to trust her to leave if anything goes as wrong as it likely will is something to focus on.
Regardless of everything, therapy is probably a good call for you. It’s not just for the mentally ill, it’s also a resource to help deal with it when life throws you a curveball.
As long as both parties acknowledge what kind of relationship it is, and she gets what she wants out of it, I think I would be able to accept it. Doesn't mean I would like it, though.
My cynical view on this situation is the pros are 1) she's fast-tracking home ownership for a generation that generally expects to not own homes, 2) she's securing financial stability during the traditionally least financially stable era of adult life, 3) working as a paid live-in caregiver pays significantly little comparatively and it is damn hard work, 4) she may have plans on marrying for love later. She's still maturing, so having a starter marriage that's lucrative may not be a totally terrible idea.
Honestly at the end of the day, you want her to be happy, right? If she's walked into this with eyes wide open, considered all the cons and still found the arrangement preferable, is it really the end of the world? What would your feelings be if she had chosen some other non traditional relationship?
Yeah in the old world where a little elbow grease was all you needed to afford a house, this would have been a coward's move and creepy as hell.
Now, it beats the pants off of most jobs. Which is all the evidence you need of how much of a failure society has become. This situation should be awful, but it's pretty nifty by comparison.
This is the best comment ^
She's not underage and the husband knows the deal. I would make sure she has a back up (a man is not a plan). Make sure she has a job/career to fall back on, and if she's stay-at-home, see if she gets any kind of money from her husband on a regular basis that she can put into her own savings. Other than that? Hopefully the wedding was bomb.
I agree with many people here that it's up to her. It's her life and she's going to live it how she wants. How you feel about it doesn't matter. I think what she's doing is morally objectionable because it turns a relationship that should be about caring and mutual affection and all those flowery concepts and turns it into a financial transaction. He gets companionship and sex and she gets money and not having to work (I assume). But once again, this is her decision.
How do you manage this? You either accept that or you don't. You get to determine if you want to be part of her life or not. Perhaps this is too much for you. Perhaps not. But your only options are to accept the arrangement or not.
I'm not sure where morality comes into the whys of getting married. Historically, women have married for things other than love, when they had a choice at all. If they maintain fidelity and keep their agreements with each other, how is this any less immoral than marrying for love?
I would hope that love-based marriages are what we all aspire to. At least in my belief it is. I'm not telling people what they can't do with their lives. There are plenty of things I disapprove of, but I don't go around berating people for not living as I would like them to.
The OP sounded like they didn't like this kind of arrangement for children, possibly for the same reason that I don't like it. So I was letting them know that I agree and sympathize but at the end of the day their child is an adult and can do whatever they want. It is the parents' decision with how they will react to things they don't like their daughter doing.
I can agree with all of that, and it's what I hope for for everyone. I just don't think having other priorities is necessarily immoral, although it certainly can be.
I'll add one thing to other's responses. Make sure she, not they, but she is covered financially. If she spends 10 years with him, not developing her career, and he drops her, will she be OK?
I.E. its perfectly OK for them to have this arrangement, it's not OK for her to be in a situation where she feels trapped by money.
Be sure to wring the old fart dry
mmmm, wet farts, sharts if you will
If they're cool, they're cool.
There's nothing wrong with prostitution. At least when her boss dies she gets a payout.
When my boss dies, I'll still be expected to drive across four cities to do a job that I could do 100% remote during the pandemic
how do you manage?
I'm relatively conservative, so probably a blend of bonds and market tracking index funds.
She's an adult and I assume she's mentally capable. Just support her and when/if she ever regrets her decision, she'll have you around to lean on.
If you openly hate on her decision or shame her for it, you're only going to drive her away or make her even more firm in her choice.
It may become complicated if some day she does fall in love and if it's with someone else. She may be faced with hard choices if this happens.
I'll be very blunt: it's her life and her decision. There is nothing to 'manage'. You either accept it or you don't, but if you don't, there's a good chance you will lose her.
I agree with you, I think OP means manage in the sense of managing themselves in this situation they clearly don't like, not their daughter.
Tangent but how the fuck our we in a world where we can lock ourselves in with someone for financial gain, we have tiny computers in our pockets, we can travel the world in a matter of hours, we have set foot on the fucking moon. yet we are chained by capitalism.
We sell our buddies intimately, we give the largest chunk of our waking life to employers. We are fucking slaves. Knelt for our masters.
But the worst part is we accept it. Lion share of comments are praising her, a few are pointing towards a kink which if that the actual reason then what ever. I feel sorry for her, not pity but the fact she is potentially degrading herself/selling her intimacy for a the semblance of dignity in a world which should afford us all dignity.
In this economy? Good on her.
I don’t know how I’d deal with it but I can’t say I wouldn’t have done the same thing given the chance, at least at that age. Does she realise that 65 isn’t all that old? He could have decades left in him. Most of my grandparents have lived into their 90s.
She does. And she actually likes him, money was the main reason but it wasn’t the only reason. She said she wouldn’t marry an insufferable person or a vegetable. This man is extremely active, both physically and mentally. I don’t think she’s waiting for his death. Plus he already spoils her to no end now, while he’s alive.
she actually likes him, money was the main reason but it wasn’t the only reason
You kind of buried the lede here by not including this info in the main post.
Sounds like your daughter is just being honest. Honest, open communication is important for a successful relationship. There's all sorts of reasons for sparking the initial interest/attraction, but what is important is that the relationship has more bones than the initial spark, which it sounds like it probably does.
My wife caught my eye because she literally caught my eye. That doesn't mean I'm only with her for her looks just because that was the initial reason for my interest.
As others have said, the main concern here is that she needs to ensure that she has her own financial security separate from him so she is not trapped or up shit creek if his finances go away for any reason.
Beyond that, the age difference can affect power dynamics and expectations within the relationship. That's less your business, more between her and him. It takes a lot of open discussion and willingness to compromise and work with each other.
My wife is somewhere around 15 years older than me. We started dating when I was past college but younger than 25. Just barely within the half plus seven window. We have differing opinions on acceptable levels of cleanliness/organization, and how household chores are to be split up. It also doesn't help that I didn't have nearly as long of a time living on my own before moving in with her. But with a lot of discussion and patience on both sides we make it work.
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