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https://lemmy.ml/comment/15062456

Honorable mention for the one bellow wondering what bad decisions the DPRK has taken.

Edit: Title typo

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[–] finitebanjo@lemmy.world 75 points 11 months ago (2 children)

They also think NK is food stable lol

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 50 points 11 months ago

It is stable in the sense that they have been starving for a long time

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 13 points 10 months ago

No food.

No food.

No food.

No food.

No food.

...

[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 53 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

"Refusing aid to a tyrannical murdering regime is just virtue signaling that hurts the innocent."

"Upholding a tyrannical murdering regime with aid is the same as performing its murders yourself."

Which one do tankies believe? Well, it depends on whether the tyrannical murdering regime is pro-US or anti-US.

[–] borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I’ve had yogthos blocked since like my second day on lemmy, you’re a braver person than me just tagging them.

[–] Stanley_Pain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 11 months ago (2 children)

He's literally Russian so no surprise there.

[–] Glide@lemmy.ca 25 points 11 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (2 children)

Funny, I called him out on being more interested in attacking Liberalism and supporting fascist regimes than actually speaking out against human rights crimes, and noted that he has a concerning bias towards political spheres which currently have an approaching/ongoing election. My suspicion became that he's a tankie programmer who happens to just like this space in his down time, but genuine Putin praising Russian citizen/asset was never really off the table.

[–] TexMexBazooka@lemm.ee 17 points 10 months ago (2 children)

I’m convinced at least one of the .Ml admins are literally just paid shills for totalitarian regimes (Davel). Yogthos has the same link spam with no substance argumentation.

What’s interesting and telling is these guys’ rhetoric isn’t actually focused on particular issues, but exclusively the actions of states and how Russia, China, and North Korea are all pinnacles of morality and success, while US bad.

The more of their shit you read the more obvious it becomes

And they run the instance

Idk. Doesn’t bode well for Lemmy long term, they make the entire software stink

[–] Glide@lemmy.ca 8 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Weirdly glad to see your experiences mirror mine, even if they make a sad reality.

Idk. Doesn’t bode well for Lemmy long term, they make the entire software stink

This is my concern, too. I do respect what they've created - getting social networking out of the hands of corporations and functioning as a decentralized collective is a good idea - but as I said somewhere else, the ideology that led to this shared goal looks to be problematic. I have no interest in trading capital-fascism for good ol' fashioned fascism.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 5 points 10 months ago

This is where I am as well. There's a real possibility that .ml is funded intentionally as a training and on-boarding forum for troll farm recruits to get some practice in before they get promoted to reddit and Facebook. I suspect the people behind some of these more notable accounts are different people every month.

[–] Stanley_Pain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 10 months ago

I'm not sure if he's currently in Russia, but he definitely has a Russian passport as evidenced by a pic he posted a year or so ago. Could be safe for all I know too

[–] borari@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Is he a Russian immigrant to Canada, or just a Canadian with Russian ancestry?

[–] Stanley_Pain@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 10 months ago (1 children)

He posted a pic of him holding a Russian passport. Not sure if his or not.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Must be true then. /s

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 4 points 10 months ago

His parents left Russia when he was very young. He cannot move to Russia because he has a cushy job in the health sector and also because he's generally lazy and doesn't actually want to move to Russia, no money there.

[–] a_wild_mimic_appears@lemmy.dbzer0.com 29 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago) (2 children)

im gonna use this as a part of my plan to blast a tankie with everything I've gotten. thanks for ammo!

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 26 points 11 months ago

The DPRK is genius

It is much less of a burden if you don't feed people

[–] AwesomeLowlander@sh.itjust.works 23 points 11 months ago (2 children)

Occasionally I wonder if I should unblock .ml to get more content, then I always remember why they're blocked in the first place.

[–] Draghetta@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago (1 children)

If you’re into brainrot might as well install tiktok and watch skibidi toilet knockoffs, still better content than tankie hogwash

Yup, and less horrifying than people casually defending genocides

[–] hitwright@lemmy.world 5 points 10 months ago

If you jerk their chains enough, they will block you ;)

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Man I blocked yungthos ages ago. I don’t know if I’d even be going on lemmy if I couldn’t block people like him.

[–] socsa@piefed.social 6 points 10 months ago

I'm honestly surprised the account didn't take some time off after the election.

[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago (2 children)

how did you get the tankie flares to show up on those people? did you have to add them manually?

[–] TheFrirish@jlai.lu 21 points 11 months ago (3 children)

I add them manually on the Voyager app you should try it! I think Connect has it as well

[–] Draghetta@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Oh, I thought they were user flares and those people had a modicum of self awareness. Silly me to attribute double digit neurons to tankies.

[–] TheFrirish@jlai.lu 13 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I'm just marking them just to see how much of my feed they take up

[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 4 points 11 months ago (1 children)

Perso, je bloque, je comprend pas ton courage.

[–] TheFrirish@jlai.lu 5 points 10 months ago

Ça me permet de faire du recensement au moins pour notre instance.

[–] affiliate@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

oh that is really nice to know about. i've been using voyager for about a year now and i'm constantly surprised by all the wonderful features they keep adding.

[–] Valmond@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Connect has it, it's a life saver!

[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 2 points 11 months ago (1 children)

I suppose they just edited the picture

[–] TheFrirish@jlai.lu 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Using tags on Voyager to identify people.

Also... Boom you got tagged!

[–] BuboScandiacus@mander.xyz 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

Wait, I didn’t know about this feature! Ty !

And how do you enable separate upvote/downvote ?

[–] TheFrirish@jlai.lu 7 points 10 months ago

no worries cool username by the way. learned something today

[–] Atomic@sh.itjust.works 11 points 10 months ago (2 children)

These are the people who call South Korea for "Occupied Korea". Anything will always circle back to something bad the US does.

All you need is to look at their post history to see the clear agenda. I hope he gets paid. Otherwise it's just sad.

[–] goat@sh.itjust.works 3 points 10 months ago

They don't get paid. I doubt any of them are paid.

[–] pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 9 points 10 months ago (1 children)

yogothos is a known tankie

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 1 points 10 months ago (1 children)

Is he still around? I think he has been blocked by a lot of instances

[–] pewgar_seemsimandroid@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago) (1 children)

instances can block users??? i think I've blocked him myself. edit: apparently not.

[–] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 2 points 10 months ago