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[-] CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work 61 points 1 year ago

Anti-nuclear power activism is a fossil fuel industry op.

[-] ChrislyBear@lemmy.world 45 points 1 year ago

Wow so dumb! Yes, fuck progress and fuck nuclear energy! Let's burn coal again like in the dark ages!

[-] datelmd5sum@lemmy.world 39 points 1 year ago

Shutting down the nuclear plants is probably the worst thing the Germans have done. At least it's in the top3.

[-] zephyreks@lemmy.ml 16 points 1 year ago

Worse than... Literal genocide?

[-] datelmd5sum@lemmy.world 19 points 1 year ago

Genocide is def more evil, but the amount of coal and gas germans are burning will probably kill a lot more people.

[-] zephyreks@lemmy.ml 11 points 1 year ago

Y'know, I think you're off in terms of scale, but your point is valid. Coal is so extremely bad for people even outside of its impact on GHGs.

[-] theKalash@feddit.ch 3 points 1 year ago

I mean, from a climat perspective ....

[-] dhtseany@lemmy.ml -5 points 1 year ago

That was sort of an asshole comment if we're being honest with each other. We're here talking about climate change, not WW2.

[-] zephyreks@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 year ago

Germany's history doesn't just consist of: "It was founded, they built nuclear plants, then they shut them down and ran coal"

[-] dhtseany@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Sure, so when there's an article about Japan's population declining do you comment insightful things about them getting nuked? You sound like a wanna-be edgy 16 year old twat.

[-] DogMuffins@discuss.tchncs.de -2 points 1 year ago

Still a low blow.

[-] MisterD@lemmy.ca 1 points 1 year ago

Fun fact: Coal Ash Is More Radioactive Than Nuclear Waste

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=coal+plant+radiation

[-] Critical_Insight@feddit.uk 0 points 1 year ago

In that top three is also my previous Audi A6

[-] PowerCrazy@lemmy.ml 25 points 1 year ago

Cool cool cool. I love the environment, unless it's too expensive.

[-] pepperonisalami@sh.itjust.works 21 points 1 year ago

They're playing the long game, at this rate they'll soon have no winter to worry about, it will be 25°C in the winter and there's no heating needed so no more energy demand spikes! /S

[-] zephyreks@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago
[-] saltesc@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

Makes sense.

I'm sure they'll go on improving to avoid such band-aids dependent on coal or Russian gas.

Meanwhile in my country, coal be like breakfast cereal. I have moved to a 100% renewable area though. Can't even get a gas stove 👍

[-] SkaveRat@discuss.tchncs.de 8 points 1 year ago

coal be like breakfast cereal

I'm struggling to understand this metaphor

[-] BastingChemina@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 year ago

The thing is that even with 100% renewables you still need to have thermal power stations.

Right now it's coal but I hopefully the German will be able to switch to biomass or hydrogen stations.

[-] CrimeDad@lemmy.crimedad.work 1 points 1 year ago
[-] saltesc@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

Australia.

Where the coal comes from and what your country does with it ain't our problem. We'll even discount you if you're going through it quick enough.

[-] Chup@feddit.de 6 points 1 year ago

There is no one to blame but Putin.

This is an emergency procedure due to Russia's invasion in Ukraine. Without the invasion, the backup coal plants would just stay backup. As coal plants need weeks to start up, they cannot just be turned on when needed. They need to be turned on early and likely run with low power through the winter, just in case they might be needed. This is bad too. This is due to Putin's war.

It's silly to make connections to the 1986 & 2011 nuclear exit, when the cause for this short-term measure is a recent event. Without Russia invading Ukraine, the coal plants would stay off.

[-] jackmarxist@lemmy.ml 22 points 1 year ago

Tbf Germany is also very much in fault at failing to build nuclear power plants and fueling anti nuclear sentiment among their population.

[-] theKalash@feddit.ch 16 points 1 year ago

Putin isn't to blame for decades of terrible energy politics and Germany becoming depended on Russian energy even though everybody told us it was a bad idea.

[-] Shamefortheshameless@lemmy.ml -2 points 1 year ago

Germany made this bed with Russia intentionally. Now they have to sleep in it. Trump dunked on them at the time for it: https://youtu.be/9LLZBVTid4I?si=VSB156ePNHI61R8c

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[-] zephyreks@lemmy.ml -5 points 1 year ago

It wasn't Putin who bombed Nordstream nor was it Putin who decided to make Germany completely forget the principle of energy independence. Germany fucked themselves and now people are looking for excuses.

[-] autotldr 4 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:


BERLIN, Oct 4 (Reuters) - Germany's cabinet on Wednesday approved putting on-reserve lignite-fired power plants back online from October until the end of March 2024, the economy ministry said, as a step to replace scarce natural gas this winter and avoid shortages.

In the wake of Russia's invasion of Ukraine and a sudden drop in Russian gas imports to Germany, Berlin reactivated coal-fired power plants and extended their lifespans, with a total output of 1.9 gigawatt hours generated last winter.

Despite gas bottlenecks easing since last winter with new liquefied natural gas (LNG) terminal deliveries, coal-fired power plans will be reactivated and the government will make proposals by summer next year on how to offset increased carbon dioxide these plants will generate this winter.


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[-] Ooops@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago

And another thread of "oh no! they fuck the environment and us all" when the reality is the lowest coal use in Germany for decades. With a hike in reduction the moment these shitty nuclear reactors providing basically nothing (>2% in the months they were still running) but getting renewable energy shut down were finally gone

Reactivating coal power plants for winter in case they should be needed is not the same as actually burning coal. Not that any of your favorite propagandists would ever tell you that secret.

[-] zephyreks@lemmy.ml 1 points 1 year ago

Do you understand how coal power plants work?

[-] Ooops@kbin.social -1 points 1 year ago

Do you understand how reality works? You know this strange thing were coal usage in Germany is going down constantly while everyone is screaming at the top of their lungs how Germany is burning more coal?

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