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[-] Sanctus@lemmy.world 166 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Some millionaire in my office: "Hey, Sanctus, what's my password for my computer again?"

Me, who can barely afford to fix my car: fights the urge to use a letter opener as a weapon

[-] CluckN@lemmy.world 144 points 3 weeks ago

That’s a really long password no wonder they forgot it.

[-] EvilFonzy@lemmy.world 40 points 3 weeks ago
[-] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 33 points 3 weeks ago

Horse battery staple moment

[-] skooma_king@lemm.ee 21 points 3 weeks ago
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[-] Empricorn@feddit.nl 9 points 3 weeks ago

Well, I know what my next password will be! (Please don't hack me)

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[-] stupidcasey@lemmy.world 17 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I don’t blame anyone for forgetting their password—it’s a dumb system, having to memorize 100 separate 16-digit randomly generated base64 codes that change once a month. However, I do blame them for not using a password manager, and I do blame them for making their problems other people’s problems.

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[-] Anticorp@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

Your password is "giveMeFuckingRaise!1!1"

[-] atro_city@fedia.io 14 points 3 weeks ago

"Oh yeah, no wonder I keep forgetting it"

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[-] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 119 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I work in IT. I usually call my job "IT support" but I'm also technically the system admin, and network admin.

Today, I had someone ask me to delete a calendar for them in Outlook. It wasn't a shared or special calendar, it was literally just a calendar in their normal outlook.

Bear in mind, they didn't ask how to do it. They asked me to do it.

That's a skill issue right there. I'm not in the business of doing other people's work for them. Now and then I'll entertain the odd request of "how do I do x" and show someone how to get something done, mainly because it's a lot less effort than telling them that I didn't go to university for teaching, and all the ensuing arguments thereafter, because there's always arguments.

But this was straight up "do my job for me".

Lol, no, I have my own shit to do.

[-] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 105 points 3 weeks ago

"skill issue" ticket closed

[-] EveningPancakes@lemm.ee 28 points 3 weeks ago

At a previous company, we would tag tickets in Zendesk based on the type of question it was so at the end of the year we could see which categories could use more explanation in our documentation. One of the category types was "LMGTFY"

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[-] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 39 points 3 weeks ago

The number of people who think that IT is supposed to know how to use every program and fix everything within those programs is a lot. I've had several engineers, programmers, designers, accountants, executives of who knows what consistently ask to fix their work or how to do whatever it is. I always try to point them in the right direction or help but other people in my field hate even that because it sets a precedent that the next time they need help they think they can ask again.

If I knew all of their jobs thoroughly like they seem to think, I wouldn't be getting paid half what they are. I would need to be paid twice what they are, to support all of those positions in that way.

[-] MystikIncarnate@lemmy.ca 18 points 3 weeks ago

I'm a lot like you. For the most part, I try to look beyond the question being asked, and find the root cause. If the root cause is because of a skill issue, I'll direct them to the next logical resource. If it's not a skill issue, or I can't determine that it's a skill issue, then I'll continue to test until I can make that determination.

9 times out of 10, if I find a solution to make a thing work in a program, I'll share that with them, and let them take it from there.

A lot of the people I support are working in the finance space and my company has an entire support department for finance applications. I'll either bounce the problem off of them, or just direct them to the finance support team for guidance.

This wasn't either of those things. It wasn't even asking how. It was straight up telling me to do a thing for them, in a program they should know how to use. It's not a complex finance program or anything, it's literally Outlook.

[-] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Yeah, Outlook has a lot of little things that throw people. Just getting people to find the view settings they want is tough sometimes, and font size in outlook doesn't change with the character size of the OS being changed. Automatically disabling com add-ons that are supposed to not disable by group policy do to "slow start times" of outlook. Online calendars are a mess, sync issues, filter issues, spam issues, the spam blockers within the admin console of o365. Convincing people to get rid of .pst files. .pst files not being compatible with onedrive, importing .pst files to their online archive (which is really just a second email storage on the back end). Takes forever, then half don't import properly, then you get them to re-run it and maybe it works but you have duplicates. Deleted emails that need recovery a month after they realized they needed it.

Sometimes it makes me realize why companies push users to just use the Webapp, but there's always something.

Didn't even touch the distros or shared emails/calendars yet lol

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[-] UnculturedSwine@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

One of the things I had to learn quick working in IT was when to amiably tell a user to go pound sand. I'm a professional with my own work to do, not your personal assistant.

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[-] brap@lemmy.world 96 points 3 weeks ago

The sheer volume of people I've encountered through numerous jobs that are on high wages but lack basic skills astounds me.

[-] superkret@feddit.org 152 points 3 weeks ago

They have other skills you don't have, that are more important for those high paying jobs.

Like faking genuine interest in the shit their higher-ups blather on about, convincingly laughing at racist and misogynist jokes, backstabbing their peers when a position opens up, and doing the most demeaning tasks with a smile and a "thank you".

[-] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 32 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Don't forget rudely asking the flight attendant to bring another warm moist hand towel as I have spilled my pre-flight mojito.

[-] RamblingPanda@lemmynsfw.com 28 points 3 weeks ago

I thought you'd go a different route and I was ready to fight. But yes. This sums it up pretty well. I quit my last job with a (roughly translated) "you're an idiot, go fuck yourself. I'm polishing up my vita" and it was SO great.

[-] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

They have other skills

Press X to doubt

[-] apfelwoiSchoppen@lemmy.world 61 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

The people with the worst virtual meeting presences are the VPs and above. They expect us to shovel their shit. Like, buy a fucking mic and a light, pay for more than DSL broadband, and shut the fucking door so I can stop hearing whatever your teenage asshole kid is doing.

EDIT: FWIW managers at most levels aren't much better, they live by the example set by the superiors they so idolize.

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[-] PerogiBoi@lemmy.ca 51 points 3 weeks ago

I work on a team that teaches courses on how to use specific programs. I’m at job level 1. A job level 3 guy keeps asking me to schedule meetings with him so I can teach him how to use the specific programs so then he can do the job he was hired for and teach other people how to use these specific programs.

[-] Isoprenoid@programming.dev 37 points 3 weeks ago

Sounds like you're doing a job level 4. Time to get paid, brother.

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[-] MBM 45 points 3 weeks ago

As someone who had to struggle in a meeting because I'd never shared my screen in Teams before and they put it in some weird place, I feel attacked

[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 62 points 3 weeks ago

Microsoft: "Here, have some shitty arcane dysfunctional software."

Me: "Damn, this is hard to use."

IT Guy: "Damn, I can't believe you get paid to work here."

Also IT Guy: low whisper "Fuck, they moved the button again. This is going to take me a minute."

[-] wreckedcarzz@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago

The amount of people who spend 0.12 seconds trying to figure shit out before throwing their hands up and saying "this is impossible, I can't find it" is wild. Every time I use a new program, I go through it with excruciating depth, changing settings and finding how to do things. It usually takes 5 minutes or less.

The people who are just immediately helpless are the ones being bitched about here.

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[-] corvi@lemm.ee 13 points 3 weeks ago

I have an ongoing theory that every time you locate what you’re looking for in a Microsoft project, a random number generator determines if it will be moved, and where to

My god all these admin centers and their old and new versions. Four places to do any one thing and maybe one of them has documentation that’s up to date.

There are at least three locations to disable user accounts. Two of them require a setting of “True” and the third one “False”. Drives me mad.

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[-] thermal_shock@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago

the giant share button at the top was too obvious?

[-] meliaesc@lemmy.world 12 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

My company switched from webex to teams with no transition time, the first 10 minutes of most meetings for a few weeks was "Am I audible?", "I'm not sure how to share my screen", "I started recording, you'll have to unmute yourself again."

It was agony, but it wasn't due to anyone's incompetence.

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[-] heavy@sh.itjust.works 41 points 3 weeks ago

Sorry if you need to learn this, but compensation has little to do with ability or merit in a lot of place that need to screen share.

[-] marcos@lemmy.world 27 points 3 weeks ago

Also, ability to screen-share has little to do with the competencies that pay the bills on most places.

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[-] poplargrove@lemmy.world 32 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

Strange judging only by how good they are with computers. They might have some other valuable skills that gets them paid highly.

[-] Sculptor9157@sh.itjust.works 12 points 3 weeks ago

Let's see Paul Allen's screen share.

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[-] Zeon@lemmy.world 15 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago)

I work in IT, and we recently hired a new "Engineer" at my company. I noticed on the form that he claimed to have extensive knowledge of Python, so I decided to meet him. The first question I asked was what IDE he uses, and he replied, "Anaconda." Before I knew it, he was referring to the entire computer as a "CPU" and struggled to solve simple issues on Windows. To top it off, he makes 30% more than I do.

(I work as a Level 1 Service Technician, and my boss is aware that I have experience with coreboot and GNU/Linux. I just got approval to bring my own setup with it installed. Although we work in a Windows environment, I can make it work.

I also funded and helped test a bunch of hardware for coreboot, with guidance from friends I have who are experienced in the field. However, I only make $55k per year, I'm hoping I can get a nice raise. It's just my boss and I as the two IT guys, so maybe there is potential.)

[-] Guitarfun@lemmy.world 9 points 3 weeks ago

Same dude. I was hired as a level one even though I've been in the field off and on for about 15 years. My company just hired someone over me who hasn't worked in IT since the late 90s. If you ask him about anything he claims to have worked with it, even things like CardDAV which wasn't a thing until 2011. If you ask him any in depth questions he brushes them off without giving an actual answer and everyone just buys into his bullshit. It's crazy how many people will take you at your word if you're a straight laced clean cut white guy.

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[-] IsThisAnAI@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

Yes, networking skills are more valuable than service desk. It's amazing how many service desk folks have a chip on their shoulder because they never moved on.

[-] Mr_Dr_Oink@lemmy.world 13 points 3 weeks ago

I dunno, having worked both sides of the fence i would say whilst network skills are more valuable because the barrier for entry is higher, in that you need apecialist knowledge, the general knowledge a service desk tech is not to be underestimated (im talking those techs that actually fix and attend jobs as opposed to those on the phones)

The number of problems a tech can fix and the amount of work they get through can be astounding. sure, it's something anyone can be trained to do, but to say it has inherently less value, i dont agree. i do networks in a hospital, and the number of people who appreciated the work i did when i worked the desk is vastly larger than the number of people that even know i exist now.

It felt alot better getting a bit of software working or replacing hardware, or recovering someones emails etc that got a doctor or a nurse working again and lowered their stress levels and made them smile than it does to upgrade cisco call manager from version 1 to version 1.1...

I agree to an extent that its not harder to work the service desk, but i dont think you should look down upon them. We all have an important role to play....

Except execs... they can fuck off.

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[-] UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

networking skills are more valuable than service desk

Only true until you drop your laptop. Then the value of that service desk work skyrockets.

Would be very cool and good if IT folks weren't constantly in a dick-measuring contest and could see the forest for the trees. Maybe we're all getting underpaid, relative to the suits six floors up, and we'd do well to stand by each other instead of bickering over who works the hardest.

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[-] UnculturedSwine@lemmy.world 11 points 3 weeks ago

Even in IT I find that with each consecutive job that I get, my wage increases while my workload decreases. I'm literally being paid more to do less. I don't think it's the same for all these professionals but I feel that once most people reach a certain level, they mentally retire from learning new things.

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