Trans people
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Edit: it's... sadly very easy to forget that you don't deserve the hate, which is why I didn't put this in my post. It's something I've been trying to work through lately.
My first thought was this, and when I opened the thread your reply was the first response listed as well.
Yeah. I feel like they get so much hate because they are the closest symbol for "maybe things aren't as clear cut as you thought", and it freaks people out.
I think also some people who feel like they can't be as openly homophobic as they used to be in the 80s/90s/2000s have just transferred their bigotry onto trans people instead because they think they can get away with it.
Waterworld is a fantastic movie. Creative world-building, unbelievable sets, stunts and performances (Dennis Hoper as an over the top villain? Yes please) I just can't understand all of the hate it received!
Best complaint I heard was "it's just mad max on water" .
WTF? That sounds awesome.
Right?? How could you not be entertained by that??
I don't think I'm quite as effusive about it as you, but it was a good movie and I don't understand the hate either
I’ma put Super Mario Bros. up as a contender too. Doesn’t get much better than Dennis Hopper and Bob Hoskins.
Funko Pops
Imo they aren't getting nearly enough of hate they deserve. I'm not against figure collecting in general but FP are the ugliest motherfucking thing i ever seen in this department, for the same amount of resources, labour and energy they could produce something much better. In fact, a consistent long serie of figures faithful to the original (not ultra-deformed) across so many franchises would been great, but alas only thing there is are those unholy abominations.
I also take issue with buying something that does nothing. “Oh I’m going to put this on that shelf and never touch it again”. It screams cash grab. They’re made of brittle plastic so you can’t play with them. And as you say, they’re ugly.
I would argue that collecting things having purely aesthetical value is also legit, though there is an issue about manufactured demand and role of merchandise in popculture, but fair enough.
Nickelback. Hate started as a joke but became real. Not like they're groundbreaking, but they don't deserve the amount of actual hate they got.
Also Korn's dubstep album. Not every song was a hit, but there were quite a few bangers on that track list. Get Up got me into dubstep and still goes hard.
Nickelback fed and banked on that polarization.
Crocs. I got my first pair when I was a teenager and they still work now (edit: 30yrs old); though I recently got a new pair because the bottoms were completely smooth on the old pair.
"Ugly" cars. Aka Pontiac Aztec, PT Cruiser, Fiat Multipla, etc. Yeah, they might be ugly as sin, but they're more interesting from a visual standpoint. I'd rather have the road filled with ugly cars than filled with cars that mostly look the same.
PT Cruisers would be fine if they were just ugly. Those things were notoriously unreliable.
Everything from Chrysler is junk. I worked for several dealers and general used car lots with my auto body shop business. Everything dodge/chrysler/plymouth was cut rate junk since the late 70's and still is. At wholesale auctions, they are the joke cars people only bid on because they are so damn cheap it justifies playing roulette. Everything goes wrong with them.
Like here we are nearly 20 years since I painted and I still remember there is a champagne/charcoal/silver metallic paint that came on Dodge/Chryslers. The color code was 4Q2. There were more unrelated variations under that color code than almost any other at the time. The only one I encountered that was worse was the charcoal metallic used on Chevy/GMC trucks and suburbans. That one has tone variability between yellow, red, and blue where getting it wrong meant remixing the color coat. With 4Q2 it was metallic grain size, tone between blue and yellow, and the flop characteristics (apparent color tone and clarity when viewed from an oblique angle).
I remember many times thinking to myself that someone knew, if you have not figured it out, say "4Q2" out loud and fast... It was freaking personal, all those times I struggled with that color. Those cars were the dead inventory that was ever present on many lots I worked for, and they sat at the mechanics bays for much longer than any of the rest.
Microwaving food. Too many people think that it's radiating the food. Its just making the water molecules in the food wiggle and heat up to warm the food through internal collisions.
It's even the optimal way to cook some things, and people still avoid it.
Though I'd highlight that warming food up in a pan or pot on the stove is criminally underrated.
Men wearing wigs.
For whatever reason, we've decided as a society that women wearing wigs/weaves/extensions to make themselves feel attractive and nice is perfectly normal, but if a man does it it's laughable and pathetic. I say, wigs for anyone who wants them!
Also before the accusations start, I'm not a bald dude lol.
Real talk - as a balding dude, there was a time when I was part of a bonus structure program, and I half-jokingly started looking at hair systems. Not because I'm balding and ashamed of it, whatever, but I missed being able to style my hair in a way that looked good. That, and I loved the idea of showing up to work with a whole head of hair, refusing to acknowledge it aside from saying I got a haircut. 'Cause that shit would've been hilarious.
Ultimately decided against it, too much $ for vanity and a joke versus sensible balding guy haircuts/the occasional clear cut.
Get one and (after you tire of that excellent joke) swap it on/off and hide it when people have their back turned like Igor's hump switching in Young Frankenstein.
Cyberpunk 2077 - it was overhyped as fuck but as someone who ignores the bullshit grind mill of video game journalism it was a decent game on release that became pretty fucking awesome after patches and the expansion.
Windows Phone, particularly Windows Phone 8.1. It had its flaws, the biggest being the lack of third-party support of course but the UX was the best I've ever experienced on a mobile device.
The UI was very different from Android/iOS but felt more consistent and intuitive. The Live Tiles especially were just such a good feature to get as much information as possible on one screen. And it all looked so incredibly good for the time with its silky smooth animations.
It's a shame Microsoft ruined it all with Windows Phone 10...
Also the keyboard! I have never used one I liked more until thumbkey came along :) The windows keyboard was so good for swipe typing, it makes me wonder how they now own swift key and it isn't as good!
When I had to go to Android (phone battery on the Lumia 950xl started swelling), I used things to replicate Windows Phone as it was so fun to use. :)
The live action Cowboy Bebop
Ty! It was so good. I was so disappointed when it got just shit on by the fan base. I was never huge into anime, but I did watch the original, and thought the live action was really good and faithful where it counted.
Teen Titans Go.
I think most of the hate came from the people who grew up with the 2003 show, which ended abruptly, leading them to believe that TTG was meant to be a replacement.
Most of the hate has died down now, but I still think all that contempt was unwarranted.
Lindsay Lohan and Paris Hilton.
Both had awful parents and public struggles with addiction, but people just like looking down on “party girls”
TBF I think Hilton was deliberate to some extent. She rode the wave of controversy she created and made a name for herself separate from the family name. She’s still controversial, but she’s independent.
Lohan was just an addict in a downward spiral chased by harsh public opinion. Unfortunately the public loves to see a star fall.
That title isn't getting as much hate as it deserves.
It's either "What do you think got way too much hate?" or "What do you think got way more hate than it should've?". You somehow combined those sentences into a grammatically broken mess.
And it's fucked up that this hasn't been pointed out and isn't one of the top comments.
Palestine
I think generative AI is a great recent example. It's a neat toy, it has some practical applications. The problems that people ascribe to it aren't inherent in the technology, but are simply symptoms of underlying social problems in a capitalist society.
For example, people complain that it takes jobs away, but the whole idea that we have to work for the sake of work is idiotic to begin with. Technology that frees up people from work should create more free time for people to enjoy. The reason that's not happening is because capitalism is not a rational economic system.
Another common argument is that it's very resource intensive and wastes energy. This is true, but there's no reason to believe this won't be optimized. In fact, we've already seen a lot of optimizations happen in just a few years that now make it possible to run models that used to require a data centre to run on a laptop.
However, more fundamentally, wasting energy is once again an aspect of the capitalist system itself. Before AI we saw stuff like crypto, NFTs, and so on. Much of the technology that's developed under capitalism ends up being frivolous or even actively harmful. So, it's not generative AI that's the problem, but the social system that guides allocation of labour and resources.
Mass Effect Andromeda. The hate was so intense it caused the publisher to disavow the series entirely.
The hate was because people were comparing Andromeda (the start of a new trilogy) with the entirety of the first trilogy. People were upset that Andromeda wasn’t grander in scale than all three former games combined. The gameplay was fine, and it was clear that they were trying to build the story up just like they had done with the original trilogy. There were several DLC chapters planned, and it was going to grow into an entire series of its own.
It’s like people forgot that the original trilogy spent an entire game just introducing the main villain. Like you didn’t even realize who the main villain for the trilogy was until the very end of the game. But when Andromeda did something similar, people got baby-mad about it.
Babylon 5, that show was brilliant and I don't get why it gets the hate it does, if you love space courtroom drama and intergalactic diplomatic shenanigans, then Babylon 5 has you more than covered.
You want a deep multi level story? Yep got that.
Space racisim? Got that as well.
A will they won't they love hate relationship between to opposing alien species who may or may not have killed a substantial amount of each others species? hell yeah we got that in bulk!
That show is worth the watch. If they had just the slightest bit of extra money to get better cgi, we would be talking about Babylon 5 different.
The Pontiac Aztek. It had awesome features I'd love to have in my car today. Tailgate with molded seats and cup holders. Speakers facing out of the back. A cooler. Foldable and removable rear seating. MP3 cd player from the factory.
Also, Funko Pops deserve more hate than they get. But I don't like figures of any kind, I collect staplers.
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