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[-] xusontha@ls.buckodr.ink 150 points 11 months ago
[-] AdmiralShat@programming.dev 96 points 11 months ago

Interestingly, the states rights debate is true, wholly.

The north wanted to keep the right to acknowledge escaped slaves as free, and the south kept sending people up there to kidnap free men and women. They were even known to kidnap free born black people and sell them into slavery.

The south also wanted to charge the north for this "service".

When people talk about states rights, remind them that the south was heavily infringing on the rights of the northern states.

[-] Liz@midwest.social 46 points 11 months ago

It's "true" on a technicality. It was about slavery.

[-] Wogi@lemmy.world 40 points 11 months ago

States joining the Confederacy were required to enshrine slavery in their constitutions. They didn't have the right to reject it. If it had anything to do with states rights at all, it was about ensuring the states didn't have the right to abolish slavery.

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[-] goferking0@lemmy.sdf.org 37 points 11 months ago

They also put it in their constitution that slavery could never be outlawed. Sounds like a really big issue for states rights

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[-] jaybone@lemmy.world 59 points 11 months ago

No civil war. This time just let them go. They will quickly devolve into third world countries. And my federal tax dollars will no longer go to their bullshit.

[-] ghostdoggtv@lemmy.world 43 points 11 months ago

They don't really want to secede. They want to dominate their opponents. C'mon bro.

[-] KevonLooney@lemm.ee 17 points 11 months ago

This is it. These people only respect power and hierarchy. Honestly most of the crazies will back down when they lose an election. January 6th was just the stupidest ones.

[-] winterayars@sh.itjust.works 25 points 11 months ago

They're not gonna just go quietly.

If they could just live their lives in peace without infringing on the rights and freedoms of others they wouldn't need a civil war. They wouldn't have needed the first civil war either.

[-] Breezy@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Noooooo. I live in Tennessee and that might be apart of the idiots! Id rather it be done and over with quickly so not to involve normal people.

[-] Furbag@lemmy.world 54 points 11 months ago

I dunno, the south might give us a run for our money this time around. I mean, they have some of the most elite soldiers in the country, including but not limited to: the Gravy SEAL's Meal Team Six, the Green Buffets, and the Roast Guard. Not to mention their many terror sleeper cells like the Yee-Hawdists, Y'all Qaeda and Vanilla ISIS.

Scary thought to put our uniformed men and women against that crack fighting force, they might come back with some severe PTSD.

[-] johnnycashsguitar@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

As a Southerner I find this hilarious.

[-] Tbird83ii@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 11 months ago

Don't forget they have the Minivan Taliban... A truly terrifying opponent.

[-] GreenMario@lemm.ee 36 points 11 months ago

Considering the avg republican has to ride the diabetes scooters at Walmart I think the 2nd civil war will be a goddamn turkey shoot.

Let's find out, Trumptards!

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[-] Chunk@lemmy.world 28 points 11 months ago

Civil wars don't just start. There's a build up. Republicans will begin to engage in acts of domestic terrorism like bombings and blowing up substations. Dems will definitely retaliate and that's how we get a civil war.

[-] 31337@sh.itjust.works 15 points 11 months ago

I doubt even this would cause a civil war. By world standards, U.S. citizens have pretty good lives, so most people wouldn't risk it. An unprecedented and complete collapse of the U.S. quality of life would be necessary. People would need to feel like they had nothing to lose, and much to gain to attempt to fight the U.S.

I suppose a quick coup is possible. If the DoD/military backed it, I'd guess most people would just accept it as the way things are, or try to emigrate to other countries.

The U.S., the "west", and possibly the entire world is probably just destined for a long slow decline as global capitalism eats itself. Probably transitioning to something worse featuring mass surveillance, disinformation like we've never seen (powered by "AI" tech), and even greater inequality. But I'm a pessimist :)

[-] Chunk@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Lmao

Paragraph 1: a civil war is unlikely

Paragraph 2: the DoD is going to facilitate a coup to take control of the government.

Paragraph 3: the decadent west will collapse in on itself.

Dude you really went from 0-60 in 3.5 paragraphs.

[-] randon31415@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

If by "retaliate", you mean arrest people, then yes. The closest dems get to doing things outside the law is black people "getting uppity" and accidentally setting fire to the local buger king.

[-] teamevil@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

Tell me Burgers King deserves to survive...

[-] Krackalot@discuss.tchncs.de 6 points 11 months ago

It's already dead. Just a shuffling zombie of something below mediocrity.

[-] whaleross@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

What are you on about? Crazy cultist fraction of a political party act out in violence and the other political party decides regular authorities nor even military are not enough to handle organized domestic terrorism but retaliates by own volition? How? By blowing up the neighbouring substation? Political activists driving around in armoured gas powered SUVs vs electric vehicles competing who can damage society most? The absolute majority of people that just want a stable life and feel generally disconnected from politics goes bananas and start shooting and looting and killing over minor disagreements? Bitcoin and gold becomes the most valuable currency along with ammunition and canned beans? Or the worst crime against humanity and allow the normal course of legal process as if the leadership and participants were just like any other citizens doing unlawful activities? Oh no, where be my pearls?

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[-] LemmysMum@lemmy.world 26 points 11 months ago
[-] andyortlieb@lemmy.sdf.org 23 points 11 months ago

That sounds cool fun and easy but armed and untrained and undisciplined nut jobs crawling from the woodwork is not going to be a clean finish for anyone involved. Obviously this isn't meant to be a deterrent for the justice system... but we're working on a different tier here. It's not going to be high profile business and agencies fighting each other. It's going to be normal working people being attacked by deranged wing nuts and always by surprise, because there will be no centcom for them.

So, if you think you're going to be prepared for an outcome like this, I do wonder what you're packing.

[-] M0oP0o@mander.xyz 10 points 11 months ago

As someone outside the country, I think uncle sam will do just fine vs meal team 6.

[-] BigDiction@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

It’s more about having an insurgency within the states. The measures to contain and crush that will make everyone suffer.

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[-] iforgotmyinstance@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Dramatic and doomerpilled.

The US military will aggressively dismantle any secessionist activity if it comes to blood. Hopefully we get to see some combined arms ops with the good tech for once instead of holding back.

Meanwhile I'm gonna crack cold ones while I watch red states suffer from their own actions.

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[-] GladiusB@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

No it's not. These fuck twits are about as inept as a guard in Metal Gear Solid. Throw em a few bones of disinformation, throw em in a bad scenario trapped, light em up. Rinse, wash, repeat. They will infight the fuck out of enough defeats.

"Civil War" is just some fear mongering posturing. Nothing more.

[-] Smacks@lemmy.world 22 points 11 months ago

I've been seeing a few documentary style videos on YouTube talking about the uptick in far-right groups in the US. One guy was able to talk to a former group member, saying for the past year or-so they've been "preparing" for a civil war. Another member said they had people intentionally join the army to try and get people on the inside.

Documentary bro tried to contact the FBI about it and was able to get in contact with an agent, but the FBI essentially said they wouldn't do anything about it.

Although I don't think a civil war is going to happen anytime soon, it's scary to think that the FBI doesn't seem to care about any of this.

[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

Something something those that wear the uniforms (or carry badges in this case) by day are the ones burning crosses at night.

[-] Pogbom@lemmy.world 7 points 11 months ago

Someone should really write a song about that

[-] Ashe@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 11 months ago

So real, but at the same time most vets I know came out of the system leftists.

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[-] Beaphe@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Small cell facebookers are not any threat to society

[-] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

Don't worry, he's going to Federal prison, not jail.

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