They won't deport them. Being illegally working in the US will be punishable by 5 years forced labour in food farming.
Exactly, they want the labour even cheaper and without right. They want people who can't complain. They don't want to pay social taxes.
And like you said, cherry on the cake if they get free labour. Mmmmm those profit margins!
But we'll still raise the price because nobody wanna work
After seeing how horrific factory farming is, I'm genuinely wondering if I'd be psychologically better off with 5 years of prison. Or 5 years of war
I'm not even vegan, but what the fuck does that say about society? That the job that feeds you might require you to experience something so horrific, you'd prefer prison, maybe even war? ...
Sometimes libs don't realize their mask slipped. "They do the jobs we won't" is bougie shit. People will do anything that pays well enough, isn't abusive or unnecessarily dangerous, and doesn't involve being housed in a bunk on-site.
These migrant workers are being abused by capitalists, and arguably we aren't even seeing the savings anyway, for what that would be worth.
Great point. People would take farming jobs if the pay was decent and all of those abusive "festures" you mentioned are missing.
Should change the phrase to "They do the jobs we would never do for such little pay and benefits."
Sounds like we need to start punishing companies instead of desperate people. I'm sure Trump will get right on that
Being aware of the reality of the situation doesn't mean you support it.
See, you're mistaken. You are asking irrational people to use logic.
Orange man great biznus man he will make Mexico pay tariffs and food will become cheaper. Also it will deport criminals (?) So I feel safe again.
And if it all fails exactly how I was warned, it is someone else's fault, and I'm not stupid... Everything's simply a conspiracy against me!
When i see this kind of posts, i tend to ask myself : does being on the left wing mean you're ok with illegal immigrate workforce being exploited in your fields and farms ? Just so you have cheap products AND go easy on your consciences ?
Immigrants are good. Exploiting them is bad.
That sounds like all the more reason to be for legal immigration and against illegal immigration.
All the more reason to be for legalizing immigration and against illegalizing immigration.
Focusing on the immigrants rather than the system puts the blame in the wrong place, and obfuscates solutions to the problem.
The GOP won't pass legislation for more legal immigration. Our economy relies on immigrants, so it means that we are reliant on illegal immigration to function.
What I don't understand is why Republicans are against having a permanent legally exploitable underclass which is what we currently have.
You seem pretty confident that’s the end goal of the politicians.
Most people on the left are in favor of giving the immigrants we all rely on official status, giving them the same legal protections as other workers. That can be through making the legal immigration process easier or a guest worker program.
only when it allows you to do cheap gotchas on the right /s
It is like that but it’s not always like that. Hispanic workers at a food factory a friend of mine worked would talk about hitting up blueberry picking season as a side gig in the summer.
That's because they will not deport all of them. They will deport a few 100.000 with a lot of noise.. and then not so much. Giving the farmers an even bigger boogie man to hold over these workers.. effectively creating a new slave class in the US.
I haven’t researched this myself, so someone quash or confirm this. He’s said hes going to hit urban centers in blue states “first” (maybe only). As such, this will largely leave his buddy Greg Abbott in Texas untouched, among other places.
It’ll be tactical and put on a show for headlines. People will suffer. Labor may be held indefinitely in prisons. But it won’t affect his friends.
Relying on illegal laborers for work sounds horrific as all hell for both sides tbqh
And imprisoning people in slave labor camps that happen to be next to farms is not "deporting".
Tariffs on Canadian oil won't lower gas prices either.
This needs more upvotes.
Enjoy your higher gas prices when he tariffs Canada.
trade war with mexico where 70% of US vegetables and 50% of US fruit will not help either. Nor will talking down to California, where most of the rest is from. I hope you red staters like corn and pork for every meal.
If Trump voters could read, they'd be very upset by this.
4D Chess move: wanna stop immigration into your country? Make your country so shitty and unlivable that it's not worth visiting let alone moving to
That's what the rolling back of child labour laws are for.
Let the urban farmer flourish.
Watch "community focused" small businesses struggle while their they "success friends" disappear so they can make a community focused on something other then capitol. Maybe they'll become urban farmers or intersectionalize with a passed skill like sewing or smut writing.
Get outside y'all go play chess with the old dude at the park. Go call the neighbor kid a little shit. Engage with your community.
Listen here, you little shit . . .
I can feel the engagement! It tingles a little. Yeah, I’m hooked.
I’m gonna go grow some beets in a vacant lot.
(Snarky, but also serious. This would be a good time to get to know your neighbors and your local farmers.)
While I love and support urban farms, would it really be enough space to feed everyone? Google says that each person would need about 600 sqft of space to grow the food they'd need, multiplied by the millions of people in a city... I just don't see how the numbers work.
Neoliberalism shitposts like this one, is one reason why Trump won.
Pro tip: relying on imported cheap (illegal) labor for critical production isn't sustainable nor does it create a locally and globally stable society. Especially when the world has moved from uni-polar to multi-polar.
Particularly because citizens will not take those jobs.
At 20, a job was a job.
Me at 40+, physically incapable of doing that work - much less at the requisite speed.
Dammit, the one positive of suffering through summer temps is fresh produce.
Stop, stop, stop. We're going to find this stuff out. We're going to learn. It will be painful. It's certainly going to be painful to watch. I just don't want to spend another second begging the 5 year old not to touch the burner anymore.
"Just trust Trump" says every Trump supporter that knows nothing of how the world works
A fifth seems really low.
Something tells me with trump in charge, they'll leave on purpose.. There will also be a lot of Americans in the next 4 years migrating to other countries too
Mexico and Canada will have to build a wall to keep Americans out
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