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‘They didn’t stand up to Trump’: how the Republican party descended into disarray (www.theguardian.com)

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[-] flossdaily@lemmy.world 86 points 1 year ago

"They didn't stand up to Trump" makes it sound like Trump is something that happened to them.

No. They welcomed Trump with open arms. They bent over backwards to defend Trump.

They changed their entire identity to become all about Trump.

When Trump cozied up to Russia, they started loving Russia.

When Trump tried to overthrow the election, they stormed the capital for him, and protected him from impeachment.

They are all as culpable as Trump.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago

The analogy I like is that Trump is like the high school coach who fed the team steroids and meth to win games. Now the team is burning down the school.

[-] flossdaily@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Sure, except I can't picture Trump doing that much work.

[-] Dagwood222@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

There's a great graphic novel about a small town crime boss who is also the local football coach. And yes, being a coach would be too much work for the reall Donnie

https://bookshop.org/p/books/southern-bastards-volume-1-here-was-a-man-jason-aaron/8400796?ean=9781632150165

[-] killeronthecorner@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Their version of regret is a quick rewrite of recent history

[-] Pratai@lemmy.ca 3 points 1 year ago

Well said.

[-] GiddyGap@lemm.ee 2 points 1 year ago

And when Trump is gone, they'll probably continue to be like Trump. That party is dead to me.

[-] 0110010001100010@lemmy.world 80 points 1 year ago

If we nominate Trump, we will get destroyed.......and we will deserve it.

-Lindsey Graham

[-] spider@lemmy.nz 42 points 1 year ago

-Lindsey Graham

This opinion subject to change, depending on which way the wind blows.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.world 31 points 1 year ago

"Use my words against me" Lindsey Graham.

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

One of the silver linings of this shitshow is that they’re giving us their own petards so we can use it to hoist them.

[-] nilloc@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

That only works if they run out of racist wood to keep building platforms on.

[-] creamed_eels@toast.ooo 15 points 1 year ago

“I fold faster than superman on laundry day”

-Lindsay “spineless chode” Graham

[-] PetDinosaurs@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Are we still making fun of him for being a bigoted, hypocritical, closeted homosexual?

[-] GreenMario@lemm.ee 18 points 1 year ago

I would. You don't get respect for being a homosexual by being the guy trying to outlaw it. Respect is a peace treaty, not law.

[-] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 55 points 1 year ago

People. Voted. For. Trump.

You can try to blame the leadership all you like but fact of the matter is that 30-40ish percent of Americans like the guy and voted for him.

And they are voting for people like him down ballot as well.

Trump is the symptom. We'll be dealing with this shit when he's dead.

[-] cybersandwich@lemmy.world 21 points 1 year ago

Yes they did, but if Republicans had actual leadership,principles, values, ethics, etc they could have easily boxed in Trump and /or boxed him out.

They could have impeached him and voted to remove him after Jan 6. It was their get out of jail free card. And they cowardly chose not to.

They let the rot fester and not it's going to kill them or the country or both.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 12 points 1 year ago

People voted for the republican candidate, as they were raised to do. They don’t like trump. They like “who they’ve been told trump is”, often the exact opposite of what he is.

A tidal wave of russian propaganda and money, and a complicit corporate news swept this piece of fraud into office, and the fox news cult machine has been chewing on them since. They have no other options. That they’re aware of.

[-] krashmo@lemmy.world 7 points 1 year ago

They have no other options. That they’re aware of.

That's because they're dumb. There's really no other way to state it at this point. Maybe it's innate, maybe it's conditioned, I don't think it matters. The fact is that they're dumb as shit and they honestly can't tell.

[-] Kolrami@lemmy.world 5 points 1 year ago

This ignores the fact that he dominated the primary.

[-] na_th_an@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

Oh man, I wish they didn't like Trump. My dad fucking loves him, still.

[-] Techmaster@lemm.ee 3 points 1 year ago

I can't wait to find out if you're right.

[-] hogunner@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Titles like this make it seem like Trump is the problem but he’s not, he’s a symptom. No fully functioning, rational party would have someone like Trump as a serious contender for POTUS.

The GOP has been on this path for decade's now going back at least as far as Nixon. We’re honestly lucky they picked someone as lazy and dimwitted as Trump; if they’d picked someone just as morally bankrupt and corrupt but with actual intelligence and cunning we’d already be living in a dictatorship.

We might still end up there but the sheer stupidity of the GOP and its leadership is giving us a second chance to reclaim our country before it’s too late. Vote in every election you’re eligible for from your state on down to you local county; they all count!

[-] ApostleO@startrek.website 38 points 1 year ago

It's my strong opinion that the pardon of Nixon is directly responsible for the current state of partisan politics in the US.

If he had been held accountable then, we wouldn't be dealing with half of our politicians arguing that the president is above the law.

[-] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 11 points 1 year ago

You’re not wrong.

[-] Peppycito@sh.itjust.works 10 points 1 year ago

Could we say it's back even further? Was there any comeuppance after the Civil War?

[-] ApostleO@startrek.website 1 points 1 year ago

Kinda, but with the later Southern Strategy, and the two parties kinda switching sides, that gets a bit muddy to follow a direct causal chain.

[-] ultranaut@lemmy.world 0 points 1 year ago

[-] theostermanweekend@lemmy.ml 5 points 1 year ago

Grifter. And y'all ate it up. What a fuckin mess.

[-] autotldr 4 points 1 year ago

This is the best summary I could come up with:

Such a scene would have been unthinkable two decades ago when Republicans were effective at wielding power and pushing through laws relating to everything from foreign wars and domestic surveillance programmes to Medicare and the No Child Left Behind schools policy.

Republicans at the time such as Tara Setmayer, a former communications director who worked on Capitol Hill for seven years, believed the party needed to reach young voters, women and minorities to survive.

Critics say Gaetz is taking advantage of an era in which, instead of working their way up the ranks one committee at a time, politicians can build their brand, “go viral” and raise money by flaunting their extremism in the rightwing media ecosystem.

Rich Lowry, editor-in-chief of National Review magazine, wrote: “Republican backbenchers used to be people such as Jack Kemp and Paul Ryan, who became something by promoting ideas that they carefully developed, sincerely believed, and persuaded their colleagues to embrace.

Steve Scalise, the majority leader, and Jim Jordan, the judiciary committee chairman, are the two leading candidates to succeed McCarthy and frantically chasing endorsements ahead of a vote among Republicans expected on Tuesday.

Larry Jacobs, director of the Center for the Study of Politics and Governance at the University of Minnesota, said: “We now see [that] the kind of authoritarian populism that talks about taking control, bringing order and strongman rule is an utter fiction.

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