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Anti-colonialism, ever heard of it? Better yet, do you actually understand it?

white liberal mentality to think that the revolution will be won in white gloves.

newsflash: people will die, but nowhere close to the amount that are dying due to the system that is already in place. The same is especially true for a fascist colonialist state like Israel, performing an ethnic cleansing of the actual people of Palestine in order to create their silly little ethnostate.

Being a spineless coward because you're reverting to a worthless position of 'both sides bad' in such a situation in my opinion makes you an enemy of the working class and the colonized world.

But somehow this broke the brains of leftists all over. Even the pro nazi state ukrainian ones I expected to have maybe a few independent braincells to rub together, but apparently that was far, far too generous. Every day it shows that the imperial core is almost incapable of doing an actual movement.

They cry over the handful of settlers dead and give useless lip service to the thousands of Palestinians who died in the last few months. Anyone who sides with the US mini me is someone who should be removed from any real communist space.

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[–] culpritus@hexbear.net 79 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Israel: We are building an ethnostate with a right-wing govt.

Ukraine: Can we do that too?

USA: We're here for both of you. How can we help? Billions in military aid? No problem!

[–] American_Communist22@lemmygrad.ml 62 points 2 years ago (1 children)

but have you considered both sides bad? I mean, Nazi colonizers are bad, but some of them were killed and thats bad too

[–] TheLepidopterists@hexbear.net 56 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Both sides are bad. Ukraine and Israel.

the good centrism

[–] CannotSleep420@lemmygrad.ml 50 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Gonna need to update the both sides bad response image.

[–] muad_dibber@lemmygrad.ml 38 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

It'd be nice if all these both-sidesing liberals / socdems had to face a Palestinian tribunal and made to answer for their posts.

needs to be updated every few weeks or so the way its looking

[–] ComradeChairmanKGB@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Really is incredible how they do the same shit every time. Kind of makes you think they might be acting in bad faith and enjoying the imperialist looting. 🤔

[–] Beat_da_Rich@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

I don't even think it's that with many of them. Most libs in my personal sphere at least don't think that deeply about anything.

These people just wanna be popular.

So they give the most milquetoast, soggy cracker response to any event that ever happens. It just so happens that because the dominant ideological sphere they are supports genocidal violence, they are blissfully unaware that they are supporting that too.

[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 50 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

I was pondering this just yesterday how these two conflicts are together the ultimate litmus test for identifying who is and who isn't a principled anti-imperialist. Because there are some radlibs who support Palestine but not Russia, and there are some conservatives who support Russia but not Palestine. So far it seems to me out of all groups Marxist-Leninists and fellow travelers have been the most principled anti-imperialists on both issues.

I'm sure we will see similar dynamics if and when other conflicts break out around the world. For instance i expect yet more filtering out of opportunists from principled anti-imperialists when the US starts a conflict with either Iran or China.

any purge after this will be extremely easy and effective, the libs have shown their colors

[–] QueerCommie@lemmygrad.ml 19 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

“Conservatives” includes revisionists (read: patsocs)

[–] kig_v2@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] cfgaussian@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Nice casual mention in that article that the west did everything to not denazify:

[–] QueerCommie@lemmygrad.ml 40 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I was saying this recently. For the test of whether you are an anti-imperialist leftist the only real questions need to be “Russia or NATO” and “Israel or Palestine.”

[–] supersolid_snake@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 2 years ago

Western leftists will master quantum physics before they pass the antiimperialism test.

[–] kristina@hexbear.net 37 points 2 years ago (2 children)

someone had the GALL to say that its good israel is invading because it will help save lgbt people from hamas. no, being nuked from orbit is NOT good for lgbt people

no but at least in the end there was peace, okay tankie?

[–] supersolid_snake@lemmygrad.ml 20 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Hamas is vastly better than the psychos they were allies with in Syria. Reactionaries don't bother them. It's all for show

[–] What_Religion_R_They@hexbear.net 12 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Out of interest, which Syrian forces are you referring to?

[–] absentthereaper@lemmygrad.ml 35 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Every day it shows that the imperial core is almost incapable of doing an actual movement.

And even if against all odds they somehow did, it'd inevitably be a mission of simply REDIRECTING the harm, rather than eradicating it. I've been at this point for... A while now. Tells me how things will shake out in Amerika when push comes to shove.

The beast will fall once we've cut its limbs. Only then, not anytime before.

[–] DeDollarization@lemmygrad.ml 34 points 2 years ago (1 children)
[–] supersolid_snake@lemmygrad.ml 22 points 2 years ago (2 children)

Ding ding ding. Liberals aren't dumb. They don't need education or whatever. They might not know all the details but they know their class interests align with the middle eastern manifest destiny country.

[–] Starlet@hexbear.net 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Liberals aren't dumb

I wouldn't go THAT far

[–] supersolid_snake@lemmygrad.ml 15 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I oscillate between thinking they are dumb or evil. Perhaps they are both, but if they are so dumb how do they dictate how so much of the world runs? May be they will never support the downtrodden either out of malice or stupidity so does the question even need answering?

[–] Munrock@lemmygrad.ml 14 points 2 years ago

I think they oscillate between being scared and being selfish. You just need enough of a combination of both to get them to agree that there are five lights.

[–] robot_dog_with_gun@hexbear.net 34 points 2 years ago (1 children)

liberatory violence would not be necessary if oppressors did not create the conditions necessitating liberation.

b-but muh ravers

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmygrad.ml 26 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

It was rather obvious after they started writing "No war but class war" after Ukraine. No surprise that they would do the same even in clearer case. If, lets's say, Egypt invaded Israel now, they would call Hamas "Egyptian green men" and Palestinians "colonists".

“No war but class war”

class reductionism, in my revisionism? say it aint so.

Yeah, but I at least figured Israel Palestine would be a more cut and dry situation.

[–] ikilledtheradiostar@hexbear.net 25 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (3 children)

i hate to ask but are we based (basic) or assed (acidic) on the litmus test?

Keep in mind mayo is about a 4.10

[–] radiofreeval@hexbear.net 19 points 2 years ago

I'd say were based and distant from lmayo

[–] Shinhoshi@lemmygrad.ml 18 points 2 years ago

We’re also a 4.10 but in pOH instead of pH

Actual communist leaders are more based than us

[–] American_Communist22@lemmygrad.ml 16 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I got a C in chem 101 so idk what you talkin about

[–] ikilledtheradiostar@hexbear.net 26 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

so i crammed a bunch of litmus paper into my liberal friend and now hes foaming frothingfash

i simply did not allow litmus paper to enter my body, like a good communist

that is how you do the test

[–] WaterBowlSlime@lemmygrad.ml 25 points 2 years ago

Western media is doing its routine song and dance and all the usual suspects are out in full force, but I've been surprised by the amount of opposition by regular people. Waaaay more people are showing support for Palestine than was ever given towards Russia. It kinda makes me hopeful it kinda makes my stomach churn... I don't know.

[–] Ronin_5@lemmygrad.ml 13 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It’s like they think revolution is when both sides talk things out over tea cakes.

Its sad how such liberal brainworms seem to be permanently fused to their brain