Israel: We are building an ethnostate with a right-wing govt.
Ukraine: Can we do that too?
USA: We're here for both of you. How can we help? Billions in military aid? No problem!
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but have you considered both sides bad? I mean, Nazi colonizers are bad, but some of them were killed and thats bad too
Both sides are bad. Ukraine and Israel.
the good centrism
Nice
Gonna need to update the both sides bad response image.
It'd be nice if all these both-sidesing liberals / socdems had to face a Palestinian tribunal and made to answer for their posts.
needs to be updated every few weeks or so the way its looking
Really is incredible how they do the same shit every time. Kind of makes you think they might be acting in bad faith and enjoying the imperialist looting. 🤔
I don't even think it's that with many of them. Most libs in my personal sphere at least don't think that deeply about anything.
These people just wanna be popular.
So they give the most milquetoast, soggy cracker response to any event that ever happens. It just so happens that because the dominant ideological sphere they are supports genocidal violence, they are blissfully unaware that they are supporting that too.
I was pondering this just yesterday how these two conflicts are together the ultimate litmus test for identifying who is and who isn't a principled anti-imperialist. Because there are some radlibs who support Palestine but not Russia, and there are some conservatives who support Russia but not Palestine. So far it seems to me out of all groups Marxist-Leninists and fellow travelers have been the most principled anti-imperialists on both issues.
I'm sure we will see similar dynamics if and when other conflicts break out around the world. For instance i expect yet more filtering out of opportunists from principled anti-imperialists when the US starts a conflict with either Iran or China.
any purge after this will be extremely easy and effective, the libs have shown their colors
“Conservatives” includes revisionists (read: patsocs)
Travelers?
Nice casual mention in that article that the west did everything to not denazify:
I was saying this recently. For the test of whether you are an anti-imperialist leftist the only real questions need to be “Russia or NATO” and “Israel or Palestine.”
Western leftists will master quantum physics before they pass the antiimperialism test.
someone had the GALL to say that its good israel is invading because it will help save lgbt people from hamas. no, being nuked from orbit is NOT good for lgbt people
Every day it shows that the imperial core is almost incapable of doing an actual movement.
And even if against all odds they somehow did, it'd inevitably be a mission of simply REDIRECTING the harm, rather than eradicating it. I've been at this point for... A while now. Tells me how things will shake out in Amerika when push comes to shove.
The beast will fall once we've cut its limbs. Only then, not anytime before.
Ding ding ding. Liberals aren't dumb. They don't need education or whatever. They might not know all the details but they know their class interests align with the middle eastern manifest destiny country.
Liberals aren't dumb
I wouldn't go THAT far
I oscillate between thinking they are dumb or evil. Perhaps they are both, but if they are so dumb how do they dictate how so much of the world runs? May be they will never support the downtrodden either out of malice or stupidity so does the question even need answering?
I think they oscillate between being scared and being selfish. You just need enough of a combination of both to get them to agree that there are five lights.
liberatory violence would not be necessary if oppressors did not create the conditions necessitating liberation.
b-but muh ravers
It was rather obvious after they started writing "No war but class war" after Ukraine. No surprise that they would do the same even in clearer case. If, lets's say, Egypt invaded Israel now, they would call Hamas "Egyptian green men" and Palestinians "colonists".
“No war but class war”
class reductionism, in my revisionism? say it aint so.
Yeah, but I at least figured Israel Palestine would be a more cut and dry situation.
i hate to ask but are we based (basic) or assed (acidic) on the litmus test?
Keep in mind mayo is about a 4.10
I'd say were based and distant from 
We’re also a 4.10 but in pOH instead of pH
Actual communist leaders are more based than us
I got a C in chem 101 so idk what you talkin about
so i crammed a bunch of litmus paper into my liberal friend and now hes foaming 
i simply did not allow litmus paper to enter my body, like a good communist
that is how you do the test
Western media is doing its routine song and dance and all the usual suspects are out in full force, but I've been surprised by the amount of opposition by regular people. Waaaay more people are showing support for Palestine than was ever given towards Russia. It kinda makes me hopeful it kinda makes my stomach churn... I don't know.
It’s like they think revolution is when both sides talk things out over tea cakes.
Its sad how such liberal brainworms seem to be permanently fused to their brain