Fuck WordPress.com. They intentionally lead people to conflate the free and open-source software WordPress (WordPress.org) and their own proprietary and overpriced version.
You can't install plugins on their platform until you pay them $40/mo ($25/mo if you pay annually). That's one of the most expensive WordPress hosting out there and it's a completely different proprietary version with less access and control than you'd find elsewhere for far less.
the same organisation makes both, they just release a subset of their work as the open source version of WordPress. it's a pretty standard business model for this kind of software
That is incorrect. Automattic donates some work to the open-source project, but they are in no way the same thing.
Man this is like saying proton isn't made by Valve... Matt Mullenweg was one of the cocreators of Wordpress and went on to start Automattic which is a pun on his name. He's literally got (or at least had) the title of lead developer in the Worldpress Foundation and he's CEO of Automattic.
I didn't say it's not "made by", they clearly contribute plenty, just like many others. The issue is that a non-profit entity should not be used as an advertising platform giving preferential treatment to a single for-profit business.
The WordPress Foundation clearly states that you can't use the name WordPress in your domain or business name nor use the logo for your business (https://wordpressfoundation.org/trademark-policy/) yet that is what Automattic does and Automattic or WordPress.com is not the same entity as the WordPress Foundation or WordPress.org. That is illegal and unethical.
If you own a name, you can grant anyone you want permission to use that name. It's not illegal.
Not when you are a non-profit. You cannot run a non-profit in a way that only provides special benefits to a person or group and exclude others.
Donates some work? They open source the platform. You can pay for hosting at .com.. honestly asking, what are you even mad about?
Feels like the typical "I shouldn't have to spend money for things!!!" attitude that goes around on here.
WordPress is a free and open-source software provided by a non-profit organization. WordPress.com is a for-profit business and a completely separate entity. What Automattic is doing is illegal and unethical.
Because WordPress.org is a non-profit that is clearly being treated as a puppet for the WordPress.com for-profit business. It's not just "they also open-source their software". They are separate entities. It's literally illegal and obviously unethical.
What laws are being broken? You use adverbs like "clearly" and "obviously" to make your point but they're not helpful. It's not obvious. What is unethical?
Nonprofit organizations are not allowed to divert undue benefits to any person or organization.
It is obvious and clear if you know the bare minimum of non-profit organizations.
Do you actually not understand the basics of non-profit organizations? If so, I'm not sure why you're butting into a conversation about the subject. Otherwise you must be arguing in bad faith.
No, not in bad faith. Look at the comment vote counts if you think I'm being provocative about a minority opinion.
Mozilla Corp is a subsidiary of the non profit. They put money in it. Wtf are you talking about?
I think "undue" is subjective and you're inserting your opinions.
Comment votes are meaningless considering no one can tell if the people voting are even qualified to weigh in. Do you think the votes on r/the_donald mattered? That is the appeal to popularity fallacy
You bring up Mozilla as an example but make no effort to explain how it's similar.
No one is allowed to use the WordPress trademark or logo for their business, except for one company. That for-profit company is not owned or run by the non-profit and the only connection is the owner/founder/CEO. Please provide some logic or reasoning why that is not an undue benefit.
Dude stop. You're calling me out for bad faith but look what you're doing. Everything you're writing in direct response to something I've shared, you're misdirecting from the intent.
I literally brought it back to WordPress and I was asking you to explain how your Mozilla example was relevant to the main point regarding WordPress.
It's now very apparent that you're intentionally acting in bad faith, because I can't believe you could say something so obviously false otherwise.
That's not WordPress.org
It would be amazing if we could have a "WordPress community of the day/week" bot so we could discover them.
This is so exciting.
I miss the 'next blog' button on Blogspot that would randomly take you to another blog. It was great.
I found one under communities so far and if you're curious it's !pfefferle.wordpress.com@pfefferle.wordpress.com It appears to work just like any other community.
However, when I commented, it didn't appear on his Wordpress blog but it did appear under "community post". He had a comment on his blog that didn't appear in the community. It might be an issue of synchronization?
Not sure if it's a typo or a front-end rendering issue. But I see your link wrong. The correct one would be:
!pfefferle.wordpress.com@pfefferle.wordpress.com
For lemm.ee:
https://lemm.ee/c/pfefferle.wordpress.com@pfefferle.wordpress.com
OK, thanks! I must have mangled it when I pasted it.
How did you get lemm.ee to connect to it? I cannot open it on my instance; it just gives me "The server returned this error: couldnt_find_community." When I try to run a search it just brings up these comments. I think the URL format in the community name is breaking Lemmy, but clearly it worked on your instance so I'm confused.
This URL loads but gives me that error: https://lemmy.sdf.org/c/pfefferle.wordpress.com@pfefferle.wordpress.com
This link doesn't work correctly: !pfefferle.wordpress.com@pfefferle.wordpress.com
I didn't do anything special, just typed the correctly fomatted link (as yours).
It doesn't work on bookwormstory.social either (pointed out here). Being it a new feature, bugs are expected.
Hi there! Looks like you linked to a Lemmy community using a URL instead of its name, which doesn't work well for people on different instances. Try fixing it like this: !pfefferle@lemmy.sdf.org
Good try, bot. Good try.
Huh it works on lemm.ee, lemmy.ca, and even the canonical instance .ml. But not on bookwormstory.social.
I wonder why that would be? But also, I'm not really worried. Maybe 0.19.0 will fix whatever's broken.
Are comments from other platforms supposed to appear beneath blog posts like that? I suppose it depends on how WordPress has implemented their federation. If it is supposed to work, it might also depend on how often WordPress pulls in information from other sources; I wonder what their default federation settings are? Does a blog automatically federate everywhere? Or would they have a more allow-list model to prevent comment sections becoming a moderation nightmare for blog authors?
I suppose I should look this up 😇
EDIT: “and, in turn, receive replies from those platforms that are transformed into blog comments.”
So it might be a matter of how often that blog’s “cron” tasks run (background processing that runs on a timer), and perhaps if the blog author allows comments (from the fediverse and otherwise) and if they have to manually approve them before they display.
I see it too, tried subscribing. I see one post, and no comment from you
WordPress.com is different from the open-source software WordPress (WordPress.org)
Care to elaborate?
I run a little webcomics hosting platform and I really want to do the same thing, just haven’t taken the time to do it yet. Seems like an obvious win so everyone can follow along using the platform of their choosing.
This is the best summary I could come up with:
Earlier this year, WordPress.com owner Automattic acquired a plugin that allowed WordPress blogs to be followed in the fediverse — the decentralized social networks that include the Twitter rival Mastodon and others.
As a result, it launched version 1.0.0 of the plugin, allowing WordPress blogs to be followed on Mastodon and other fediverse apps.
That means anyone using the hosted version of the open-source WordPress software now has the ability to tie into the fediverse, connecting their blog to federated platforms like Mastodon, Pleroma, Friendica, and others.
By using the plugin, the blog itself can also become the user’s profile in the fediverse, instead of having to set up an account directly on a federated app, like Mastodon.
To implement the plugin on Free, Personal, and Premium WordPress.com hosted sites, you simply head into the Discussion section with Settings from the blog’s dashboard and enable the toggle titled “Enter the fediverse.” From there, you’ll make note of your default fediverse name, which references the blog’s domain (e.g. “openprotocolfanblog.wordpress.com@openprotocolfanblog.wordpress.com.”) That profile can then be shared with others so they can follow it on Mastodon or other platforms.
That could expand the fediverse’s numbers, as well, given that Automattic’s own statistics indicate that over 409 million people view more than 20 billion pages each month on WordPress.com websites.
The original article contains 474 words, the summary contains 215 words. Saved 55%. I'm a bot and I'm open source!
Can you follow rss feeds on the fediverse?
This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.
