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That was my first thought, but then I remembered the tiny campgrounds I've stayed at. Now I'm imagining this guy only like 7-8 feet away from the family
I would have that shit framed
Nah, got to use wax, and stick it to something like a 40k purity seal
In the crisp brightness of the forest campground, there are only supportive neighbors.
This crispbright aesthetic can get it
No yelling,
Kids behaved,
Didn’t see you hit your wife (even once)!
The bar is set hilariously low, and a lot of people still don't make it.
That's right, you didn't see me hit her 😏
As long as it's consensual and boundaries have been discussed beforehand you're fine.
I think I would remember this for 5 years if it happened to me, which means I should do it to others
Absolutely. And I'd remember it forever.
I once had someone tell me on discord that they stopped cutting themselves because of me just being nice to them, when they had trouble making any friends. I'll never forget that.
That is awesome.
And in answer to the question in the title: Yes. Yes it is. Toxic masculinity has never been about man=bad or anything. It's about finding better ways of being masculine. That's what it was always supposed to be.
Good men are real; I've met many of them. It isn't some impossible ideal, but a process of self improvement that anyone can jump on.
I agree that that is what it should be, but my experience has been that I've heard a lot of man=bad messages. Maybe it's the bubble I've been in, but it's hard for me to shake that off. I try to be a good person, but I don't know what it means to be a good man. Any personality trait that is good for a man to have, I also think is good for a woman to have, so it's not specifically a good man trait.
all of that is because gender is socially derived. we don't need to attach any aspect of our personality to our gender, or any of our gender to our personality. given this, we can understand all gender to be either contrived or performative. if gender is performative, we can contrive associations that are positive and hopefully raise a new generation of decently well adjusted men who get us closer to living in a post gender-coded society
Maybe it's generational I don't know. I'm a 47 year old dude I don't need strangers validation to know I'm a good dad and frankly that level of assumed eavesdropping and then feeling a need to announce that regardless of it being a positive message is just, fucking weird and off-putting.
Compliments are hard to take for some, and it sounds like you find it patronizing and creepy. This is for this very reason that I was really hesitant as a woman to compliment men, I'm more or less the same generation.
One time late at night, I had no makeup on and was very frumpy, going to buy a six pack at 7eleven. There, a gorgeous gigantic drag queen told me "Giiiiiiirl, look at your faaaace, you're so gorgeous". It was so so so cool and made me feel like a queen. So from then on I thought fuck it, I don't get compliments often and when I do, it makes my day. So now I do whenever I am sincerely impressed or enjoy something.
I appreciate compliments. I have a hard time accepting overly specific compliments.
The original note that started this thread was on the overly specific side.
At some campgrounds you can't not hear your neighbors. I understand there's a social expectation of pretending privacy but surely this is just a wholesome gesture?
Why?
Seriously, it seems like a genuinely nice note. No harm was done and everything that was said was validating and positive. It didn't need to be said, but that just makes it all the more special. That guy going out of his way to give that validation when it obviously wasn't necessary just shows that he isn't just being a good dad. His parenting is at a quality at that at least one other dad admires. He doesn't need to be told that, but I'm glad he was.
I suppose I don't understand your perspective. If you know you're a good dad then getting validation on top of that is just good, right? If it's obvious you don't need it and someone else is still compelled to tell you then you must be doing an even better job than you thought!
It's good you don't need validation. In fact it's a great level of confidence in your ability. So if someone validates that confidence. That's good? It's not needed, but it's still good.
Or at least that was my takeaway, I was curious about yours.
ETA: I had a thought... What would your opinion be if the feedback was negative? What if he was aggressive and mean? Not loud, or drawing attention, just a dickhead to his kids and family.
I'm not looking for any particular answer here, I'm just curious if your opinion would change at all.
the weird part to me is writing such a long note and putting it on the car.
if it was delivered in person (and then there's still a lot that could make it weird), or the note was just "hey man, couldn't help but notice you seem to be a great parent, props from a fellow camper", i'd be more comfortable with it.
I've personally lost all sense of masculinity. There's no positive feature I would think men should have and women not, or vice versa.
To me gender norms feel weird and toxic, except there are folk in our trans community that get a lot out of representing as their gender.
But telling people they rock is a good thing I think. 2025 is expected to a lot of bad days.
Is this Adrian Dittman??
Humble brag
Let the man brag. Good dads are underappreciated.
Long before I was a dad, I once told a dad I saw in a retail store "you're a great dad!" after being in an adjacent aisle and hearing him interact with his kid. He was clearly offput by the input. That was the only thing I said to him; hopefully it had a net positive impact.
Hell yeah!