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submitted 11 months ago by Wogi@lemmy.world to c/memes@lemmy.ml

Anakin has a clear motive, and a logical progression from naive to evil.

Danny just decides to lose her shit one day.

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[-] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 66 points 11 months ago

The ending of GoT will never stop being a sore spot for me. Some of the worst writing and abandonment (sabotage?) of character development I've ever witnessed.

[-] YourFavouriteNPC@feddit.de 23 points 11 months ago

You've got it all wrong! It was actually an incredibly genius move, as the writers knew that after 7 seasons of twists, turns and surprises, the audience wouldn't really be phased by any characters death anymore. We'd become so accustomed to sudden character deaths that watching GoT became the literal incarnation of "expect the unexpected" and you can't shock people who are just waiting for it to happen. So what did the showrunners do? They did the only thing nobody expected, assassinated the only target they knew would still get a reaction out of people after all this time - they killed off the show itself.

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[-] EmoDuck@sh.itjust.works 21 points 11 months ago

The worst part is all the investment I had into it. Not just emotional investment but also time spend getting to know the lore and coming up with theories

[-] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Don't worry, it will pay off when the books are finished!

...

:(

[-] Nurse_Robot@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago
[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 4 points 11 months ago

It’s a bingo!

[-] marhensa@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago

there's unfinished books, hope GRRM could finished it eventually.

your lore and theories you follow still matters.

[-] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

Yeah but they had that big movie deal to get working on, had to put a bow on it.

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 17 points 11 months ago

The thing that still blows my mind is that they evidently could not comprehend that pulling this sort of bullshit would have sharply negative effects on their future in all of showbusiness. Like, they had a Star Wars movie signed. That’s still a bit of a thing nowadays, and when they got it, it was an even bigger deal. And they spiked it because they couldn’t be fucked to put in the effort to give one of the most popular TV series EVER a reasonably meaningful, satisfying, and well-written conclusion.

[-] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 12 points 11 months ago

I feel so sorry for the actors and other people who worked on the show, besides D and D of course. Imagine being part of the biggest TV thing ever and having incredible success, only for it all to fall apart towards the end, completely removing the thing from public consciousness.

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago

Man, remember when they had the cast do that media blitz for the final season, and Peter Dinklage was just giving off Hide The Pain Harold vibes for the whole interview? That must have been rough :(

[-] FooBarrington@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Yeah, that must have been brutal. Some of the actors let a couple of negative sentences slip during those interviews, but I'm sure they weren't allowed to.

I don't know if a single clip shows this better than the reaction of Varys' actor to his characters death. Just imagine having to sit at a table WITH THE SHITHEADS THAT ARE RESPONSIBLE for butchering an amazing character you should be remembered for, and not being able to say anything. Fuck.

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 5 points 11 months ago

It was so frustrating because the actors kinda obviously all gave a shit and wanted the show to be good, and D&D just… didn’t.

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[-] NutWrench@lemmy.world 45 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Danerys going crazy should have been set up YEARS in advance. She spends the first 7 seasons doing everything she can to avoid needless suffering and talking about how she's going to "break the wheel."

Then, over the course of only 3-4 episodes in Season 8, D & D flip her switch from "good" to "evil" like the Krusty the Clown doll and she slaughters an entire city. This is not "character growth." This contradicts everything we've been shown about her character.

[-] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 9 points 11 months ago

Honestly a huge amount of people overlooked the red flags with Danerys, because reasons. The final flip to full on crazy was poorly done, but there was a history of violent and cruel outbursts.

[-] chetradley@lemm.ee 11 points 11 months ago

Let Kahl Drogo violently kill her brother. Burned Mirri Maaz Durr alive. Crucified the slave masters of Meereen. Burned the horse lords alive.

[-] Ultraviolet@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

I think the difference is those are portrayed in a way where you're still supposed to be rooting for her. Every one of those people, as brutally as they were killed, were monumental assholes. And instead of letting the viewer grapple with the fact that they're on the side of a sadistic monster torturing someone to death, to explore the dangers of prioritizing vengeance over justice, the story just moves on. There's a lot they could have done to bring the consequences of Dany's shortsighted rage into perspective, really give the viewer several moments of "yeah, I see why she did it in the heat of the moment, but damn, that's fucked up". Then, her subsequent heel turn would feel like the logical conclusion of her arc.

Then just give her time to be the main antagonist for a bit. What's the point of spending a series long arc setting up a powerful villain if she's not actually given any screentime as the villain?

[-] ryathal@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

She also had the dragons burn the unsullied makers, and some Westeros knights, an was talked down from a handful of bad ideas she wanted to do.

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[-] trafficnab@lemmy.ca 6 points 11 months ago

If they were extremely accomplished at one thing, it was throwing away almost a decade worth of character and story development for basically every surviving character in the show, which is honestly impressive

[-] Saik0Shinigami@lemmy.saik0.com 4 points 11 months ago

Might not be character growth... could be tumor in the brain growth.

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[-] LopensLeftArm@sh.itjust.works 37 points 11 months ago

Well sure, but you have to admit that's a pretty low bar.

[-] AncientFutureNow@lemmy.world 36 points 11 months ago

Steven Crowder is a piece of shit human.

[-] slacktoid@lemmy.ml 16 points 11 months ago

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(couldn't find the template i had but i think this can do) lets spread Calvin!

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[-] proper@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago

haven’t seen this douche in a while. imho people should cover his stupid face with the face of whoever the meme is referencing 🤷‍♂️

[-] AlligatorBlizzard@sh.itjust.works 49 points 11 months ago
[-] Wogi@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

This meme is accurate and I regret my decisions.

[-] Wogi@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Here's a template

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[-] VikingHippie@lemmy.wtf 20 points 11 months ago

I will never not read D and D as Dungeons and Dragons, so this was highly confusing to me at first 😂

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 20 points 11 months ago

Are we including the Clone Wars? Because for me, that filled in a lot of gaps and made the movies more enjoyable.

[-] BrownianMotion@lemmy.world 19 points 11 months ago

The fuck does Dungeons and Dragons have to do with Star Wars?

[-] Likwidkat@lemmy.world 9 points 11 months ago

David Benioff and DB Weiss are the two dumbos that ruined game of thrones. I don't like that they're abbreviated to be confused with the ttrpg Dungeons and Dragons, but it's what the internet decided.

[-] AnUnusualRelic@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

It's Dame of Dragons, the TV thing.

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[-] dangblingus@lemmy.dbzer0.com 18 points 11 months ago

I love how Game Of Thrones ended like 3 years ago and the internet is still processing our collective trauma from how objectively terrible season 8 was.

[-] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 9 points 11 months ago

Over 4 years ago now.

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 14 points 11 months ago

Well it’s mainly because D&D decided it’d be a great idea to do it mostly over the course of a single episode

[-] marhensa@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

they think shocking effect just for the sake of shocking is great, and always works for GoT.

NOPE.

Dany the compassionate and kind, snapped just in 1 episode to become his father, burrrn them all.

Jaime whole character arc become waste that he came back to Cersei after post nut clarity with Briene.

Jon Snow, the Ice and Fire, the prince who was promised, Azor Ahai, simping for muhh qweeen, yells at zombie dragon, while Arya stab the big bad Night King like it was just random villain.

Varys, Littlefinger, and Tyrion, those who always playing 4D chess, become so dumb that it hard to watch.

and the most shocking of all: "and who has a better story than Bran the Broken?" like what the fuck man, I thought Bran story become much sinister and dark that he is the Bran of All Time (Bran the Builder, Bran that become Night King, and other Bran, etc). Like, also why bother create a story about the connection between him (as three eyed raven) and the Night King, psychic bond between them when he wargs, etc. and no, it's just "Westeros now are adopting Democracy, and Bran is the leader choosen by the council" thing.

[-] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 11 points 11 months ago

suBvERtEd ExpEcTAtiOnS

[-] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

Both were a bit crap in my opinion. Ok, Dany's was Taco Bell volcano diarrhea level.

[-] Wogi@lemmy.world 2 points 11 months ago
[-] jimmydoreisalefty@lemmus.org 10 points 11 months ago

Agree, ending of GOT made of lot of people stop being long time fans.

Rushed and not that well tought out.

[-] psycho_driver@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

I just tell people that GoT is the best 4 season TV show in history.

I do appreciate season 5 for the sand snakes jail scene at least.

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[-] fox2263@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

I don’t know. They both flipped on a dime into kid murdering.

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[-] Gamoc@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

You mean it's better than this legendarily shit thing? You don't say?

[-] Gorgeous_Sloth@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 months ago

There are people who think otherwise ??

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