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[–] SpaceNoodle@lemmy.world 141 points 2 years ago

LOL, that was fast. Couldn't even hold out for the IPO to rope in the crypto-bros.

[–] empireOfLove@lemmy.one 96 points 2 years ago (1 children)

More like they realized they couldn't grift any extra money from it.

[–] jarfil@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Or rather... the tokens were held on a sidechain created in collaboration with FTX... yes, that FTX, the one that "misplaced" a bunch of billions of dollars, and for a long time it took a somewhat elaborate way to convert Reddit community points (Moons, Bricks) into USD.

A couple months ago, after the API debacle, the tokens got listed on Kraken... and their value took a quick nosedive.

They "IPO-ed" them, and it failed, so now they're slashing them.

[–] Socsa@sh.itjust.works 14 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Man, how much institutional failure is one man's ego actually worth?

[–] FrostyTrichs@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

Many moons.

[–] foggy@lemmy.world 82 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (2 children)

The arc is wide, but they're circling the drain. Say what you will about the inefficacy of the exodus, but the exodus was well deserved; the platformhas legitimately gone to shit.

All my homies hate spez.

[–] captainlezbian@lemmy.world 6 points 2 years ago

Yeah the exodus wasn’t efficient but they still aren’t doing great

[–] Diplomjodler@feddit.de 5 points 2 years ago

I hated spez before it was cool.

[–] RightHandOfIkaros@lemmy.world 44 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago) (1 children)

Announce bad change, revert it and apologize saying you're listening to the community, then implement other changes. Rinse and repeat.

[–] mr_tyler_durden@lemmy.world 12 points 2 years ago

Except they were too stupid to do it for the only change that mattered to a lot of us, API pricing/access to the full Reddit.

I was ready to pay up to $15/mo but after they way they treated the Apollo dev and the fact that for all intents and purposes Apollo was Reddit for me by the end. I’d been on Reddit since the start and used many clients but Apollo was the best and I couldn’t go back to the official or any of the clients that put up with what Reddit did.

[–] DreadTowel@lemmy.world 41 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Looks like my first time hearing about those is from them being removed

[–] dasgoat@lemmy.world 24 points 2 years ago

Me with most Google projects

[–] pete_the_cat@lemmy.world 26 points 2 years ago (2 children)

I don't ever remember hearing about this in the first place and I've been on there like every day for the past 5 years.

[–] antonim@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 2 years ago

That's the weird part. Apparently it's existed long before the API shutdown, and they only started advertising it a little bit when they killed off reddit awards, as some sort of alternative.

Not that it would've succeeded either way, but it seems like they didn't even try?

[–] athos77@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

I think it started like five years or so ago? They ran it as a "pilot project" in three subreddit, thinking they'd expand it eventually, but they never did. Now they're just officially killing it off.

My personal suspicion is that it's proven expensive to code it into the app, to maintain the accounts and infrastructure, and that rolling it out more widely would cost too much money. And since it was only three subreddits anyway, it's easy to kill off and say they're going to roll the "benefits" into their new rewards program. The one where you can "cash out" based on your reputation and rewards, except it's specifically designed to make it difficult to "cash out" anything. And I fully expect the available "rewards" to decrease in value over the next couple years.

Fuck spez.

[–] Alexstarfire@lemmy.world 23 points 2 years ago

Damn, didn't they only release that a few months ago?

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 21 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I'm wondering the legality of this.

They promised many stuffs is coming from this fake worthless money, buy now cheap and make lots of money later when it raises value.

They then swindled 40 million out of gullible people, who bought an obvious scam as investment not realizing it was an obvious scam.

then they do a rug pull when the 40 million they cashed are instantly vaporized. One hour before killing the project, some important people have insider info and sell all their assets, leaving users with an empty bag.

if it was with stocks, this would lead to years of prison, i wonder if it's done with magic internet money doesn't bear any consequence.

This is not "anyway it was useless points for giving useless cosmetic rewards to other users", this was marketed as an investment, with this fake money listed on official crypto markets

[–] wizardbeard@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 2 years ago

Thankfully the SEC has been cracking down on this sort of thing lately, correctly identifying how tons of crypto projects are being used as unregulated securities and pursuing charges.

[–] Moonrise2473@feddit.it 18 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Some crypto bros lost thousands of dollars on this change

Going on the cryptocurrency subreddit can give a lot of schadenfreude

Interestingly, some mods sold all their tokens one hour before the official announcement and they're deleting all mentions of it

[–] A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world 3 points 2 years ago

crypto bros losing thousands on stupid crypto bullshit? UNPOSSIBLE!

[–] Rhynoplaz@lemmy.world 11 points 2 years ago

They sent me an email about this. My response was "Unsubscribe from future emails."

[–] Rally@lemmy.world 9 points 2 years ago

I still go on reddit once a week for the smaller reddits that have more activity in them. Wishing we could go back 5 or so years ago.

But I am enjoying this community more overall.

[–] Jordan117@lemmy.world 2 points 2 years ago* (last edited 2 years ago)

Thoughts and prayers to the cryptobro who mocked me for not pouring my 80k coins into $MOON bullshit back when Reddit was killing those off, too.

[–] orientalsniper@lemmy.world 1 points 2 years ago

About damn time, I used to browse /r/cryptocurrency and it was filled with posts farming moons.

[–] AnonTwo@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

I don't think anyone was able to spin why this would be a good idea when it was first announced.

[–] Neato@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Any time anyone is pushing crypto they are either A) are a true-believer and think it's the future or B) are trying to get more rubes to buy in so they can hand them the bag.

NFT~~C~~s were invented for reason B for etherum bag holders.

[–] athos77@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Spez created both reddit crypto and reddit NFTs, and spent millions doing so. At the same time, he was literally paying all the infrastructure costs for some of the world's wealthiest companies to mass-harvest reddit's data for their latest projects, and spent tens of millions in infrastructure, development costs, storage and bandwidth to self-host videos and images and create a broken media player (after having spent 15 years refusing to do so).

He literally sees a techbro trend start, watches it peak, and then tries to drag reddit along in it's wake as it starts to fail. He is a failure as a CEO, and he knows it. He also knows this is his last chance to make bank, which is why he's so stubbornly insisting on following the current path: he wants "his" bag.

[–] bloopernova@programming.dev 1 points 2 years ago

That was viscerally enjoyable, I hope you insult people for a living!

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

There's a ton of potential real-world purposes for blockchain, but none are going to come to fruition for decades. There's one project I am still involved in, distributed cloud storage, nodes get paid for participation in tokens. It is not profitable, but I like keeping a toe in the water for a "real thing."

[–] Neato@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

Why would you want cloud storage to have an uneditable, append-only storage medium?

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

It's not uneditable, append-only. Backups, log storage, large file media storage and streaming. It's competing with Amazon S3, not Dropbox.

[–] Neato@kbin.social 0 points 2 years ago (1 children)

A blockchain is a distributed ledger with growing lists of records (blocks) that are securely linked together via cryptographic hashes.[1][2][3][4] Each block contains a cryptographic hash of the previous block, a timestamp, and transaction data (generally represented as a Merkle tree, where data nodes are represented by leaves). Since each block contains information about the previous block, they effectively form a chain (compare linked list data structure), with each additional block linking to the ones before it. Consequently, blockchain transactions are irreversible in that, once they are recorded, the data in any given block cannot be altered retroactively without altering all subsequent blocks.

Yes they are. If you need an uneditable log, I guess? There are no uses on the blockchain for large file storage. Zero. It's a ledger, not a storage medium.

It's competing with Amazon S3, not Dropbox.

Distributed cloud storage sounds more like old torrents with partial seeders. But if you're using a chained ledger for that, sure. But like crypto, it's going to balloon out of control.

[–] Nougat@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

The storage isn't on a blockchain. The tokens are just used to compensate node operators based on storage usage, ingress, egress, repair.

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