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"Looks at fields where migrants usually pick vegetables"
I got bad news for ya bud.
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shrugs They're the ones that voted for this shit. It's just a shame the rest of us have to live with the outcome.
It's almost like attempting to enforce policy without nuance can have drastic consequences.
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Hans Breitenmoser, a farmer, says the ‘dairy industry will die a horrible death’ if undocumented workers are deported.
When Brexit came into force and "migrant" (i.e. low paid Eastern European) fruit pickers were kept out of the UK, farmers here struggled https://www.standard.co.uk/news/uk/farmers-brexit-kent-government-brits-b940026.html
If apparently we can't afford to produce food without exploiting low paid immigrants then either the people running the farms are money grubbing dickheads or there's something very wrong with how society functions.
Here in US i think it's more complicated than that. The farming is very large scale, most of the work is done by machinery. Some of the crops though need to be picked by hand. There is a migratory (within the US) workforce that moves to where the seasonal work is. Farm hands that sleep in a loft in the barn and see the crop through from seed to harvest isn't a thing. I learned this because I had friends who did this. Live in a tent, get paid for what you produce, move on to the next crop. No federal taxes, low cost of living. Apples in Washington, oranges in Florida, blueberries in Maine, clean fish in Alaska.I even met people who worked on crab boats and couldn't understand why it was so dangerous until I saw the TV show Dangerous Catch. Americans would rather work at Walmart. Immigrants will happily do it then head back home where the money they earned will go farther. NAFTA stole a lot of the agricultural work from Mexico, they're doing the same work just further from home. I don't know for sure but they may not be getting paid any less than an American that does the same job.
Caveat: I garnered this information a long time ago and may be outdated. IMO US immigration laws need to be updated and enforced. Political polarization is making this impossible. Being honest about the situation is the first step.
Other caveat: not an expert at anything
The farming is very large scale, most of the work is done by machinery.
Most of the farming is mechanised here too AFAIK (not an expert) but like you say there are a few jobs that haven't been fully mechanised yet, including fruit picking.
Wow, Trump is woke?!?!? First making every US american legally a woman and now turning people vegan? Smh my head
Now the agribusiness giants can buy those farms up cheap.
What an amazing and totally unintended coincidence
Yep that story about you will own nothing and be happy is a reference to our futures being modern serfs outside of the property class.
Lol, Trump accidentally causing the a massive increase in veganism in the US is hilarious
Good thing America stored all that cheese.
We already took care of the cheese, it's not there to fall back on anymore! The cheese caves are over!!!! We're living on borrowed cheese!!!!
And salt too.
I don't expect a dairy farmer to know better, but of course he means "plant-based", not "vegan". "Plant-based" is a functional description, while "vegan" is a set of moral values and their ethical consequences. The dairy farmer isn't saying that everyone has to renounce animal abuse. They are simply saying that it won't be economical to commit atrocity for money any longer.
I don’t expect a dairy farmer to know better, but of course he means “plant-based”, not “vegan”. “Plant-based” is a functional description, while “vegan” is a set of moral values and their ethical consequences.
Since the farmer is talking about the outcome as opposed to the justification is there anything functionally different between "plant-based" and "vegan" here? As in would the diet of the vegan and someone eating only "plant based" look different in any way?
Jerkface is making a remark on the character of the farmer. A harsh one based on his profession, more-so than the outcome of the meaning of his words… dairy is not as immaculate as most were led to believe.
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It's about time!
We'll have to go vegan
Yeah, right, like you're going to find someone to pick vegetables...
Nobody ever fucking asks them who they voted for and why.
Maybe don’t vote for an Orange Turd next time because I know you farmers did.
Nobody ever told me there'd be unintended consequences to my actions /s
I'm torn on this one. I want immigrants to be able to come to the US, but I don't want them exploited in anyway. If these workers are deported it would shine a light on the industries that exploit them very quickly. It would be at the expense of the current workers. I wonder what they're currently making pay wise.
Anyone could have seen that coming.
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