This whole instance-tribalism seems very self-defeating to me. Why be decentralised if everyone ends up so boxed off that there are just a handful of isolated instance-clusters talking amongst themselves? It's like how email (SMTP) is decentralised but the mega-hosts act like a cabal, gatekeeping so strongly (and virtually doing blocklist-by-default for unrecognised servers - even of good standing) ultimately capturing the user-base by undermining the decentralisation. Luckily with DKIM/SPF/DMARC/ARC/etc and stronger anti-trust regulations email seems to be slowly climbing back out of that hole. Unfortunately with all the banal tribalism it feels like much of the new Activitypub based tech users are willfully climbing into that same hole, without even being corralled there by mega-hosts.

[–] ArtificialHoldings@lemmy.world 9 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm pretty sure if we're excluding instances with troll farms or hosting illegal material, the map of Lemmy instances is still kind of a single amorphous blob, with nearly all connected instances being just 1 connection away from their blocked instances. These can't be defined as isolated instance-clusters. Lemmy.world users seem to always know what hexbear users are up to because of their federated neighbors, lol.

[–] alcoholicorn@lemmy.ml 12 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Lemmy.world users seem to always know what hexbear users are up to because of their federated neighbors

Nah, they think they know what hexbear users are up to because random folk make shit up and nobody calls them on it, because they're defederated.

[–] StupidBrotherInLaw@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I see you also know about PugJesus.

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[–] Blaze@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 month ago

People usually don't see site wide bans on lemmy.ml in a very good light: https://feddit.nl/post/16246531

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[–] sharkfucker420@lemmy.ml 43 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Hexbear is also just straight up dead rn, can't see their shit til they secure a new domain

[–] YarrMatey@lemmy.dbzer0.com 22 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Hexbear can't federate but you can see their content at: https://chapo.chat/

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[–] jsomae@lemmy.ml 28 points 1 month ago (4 children)

Regardless of whether you're politically left or right, I feel like the hexbear crowd is just tremendously unfriendly. Even when I agree with them, I usually feel bad reading what they have to say. Being unwelcoming is not a good strategy for proliferating one's politics.

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[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (8 children)

Am I taking crazy pills? Last I heard hexbear doesn't even exist anymore.

Are yall so laser focused on feudposting you missed that piece of news?

[–] AntiOutsideAktion@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago

Am I taking crazy pills? Last I heard hexbear doesn’t even exist anymore.

It's wild how much a game of telephone happens even within what you'd expect to be the closest circle of association

[–] geneva_convenience@lemmy.ml 9 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I had to check but hexbear currently redirects to chapo.chat so I assume they have the domain for now.

Which says a lot about the manufactured outrage. Nobody even has a clue what is going on over at hexbear, but somehow their Lemmy experience is ruined by it.

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[–] Cowbee@lemmy.ml 8 points 1 month ago

Hexbear exists, the domain is changing names and federation is broken for now but posting is still happening on chapo.chat.

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[–] Soulg@ani.social 26 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

hexbear

the wokes

Okay now that's hilarious

[–] boredtortoise@lemm.ee 18 points 1 month ago (20 children)

Aren't world the wokes/libs/whatever is the current pejorative

[–] inv3r5ion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 27 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Nah world is full of liberals but they get real uppity when you start going after liberalism from the left

[–] Resonosity@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 1 month ago

This is partly why I've chosen a different instance other than .world. I can control what is and isn't in my feed, and it's not like contemporary American centrist liberals have the best ideas when it comes to the current political landscape.

[–] MBM 17 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Compared to the rest of Lemmy they're not very woke

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[–] FozzyOsbourne@lemm.ee 7 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Apparently everyone's a "lib" when you're an authoritarian

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[–] LovableSidekick@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I've seen "hexbear" but have no idea what it is, so clearly it's not ruining anything for me.

[–] cm0002@lemmy.world 8 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Hexbear, grad and .ml are the Tankie Triad, .world defed's from Hex and grad because Hex is the worst, Grad is runner up. .ml tends to be more subtle about it and has largely avoided a more mass defederation movement like what happened with hex and grad

[–] Taleya@aussie.zone 12 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Cal xi winnie and see how sublte .ml are :D

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[–] electric_nan@lemmy.ml 17 points 1 month ago

Tankies shit my pants.

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 15 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Wait, what do you mean .World isn't Federated???

[–] zzx@lemmy.world 26 points 1 month ago (1 children)

With hexbear specifically

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 10 points 1 month ago

Ah, thank you.

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[–] hamid@vegantheoryclub.org 7 points 1 month ago

This thread brought out a ton of tone police lol

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