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[-] Chozo@kbin.social 114 points 11 months ago

"Counter-Protester" is a weird way to spell "Terrorist".

[-] TechyDad@lemmy.world 40 points 11 months ago

Right. A counter protestor would be holding a sign, not aiming a gun. This wasn't "counter protesting" in any sense of the word.

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[-] sirboozebum@lemmy.world 17 points 11 months ago

But he is a conservative white guy so we can't say that.

[-] perviouslyiner@lemm.ee 16 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

In apparent support of this label, his own YouTube channel describes him as a "domestic terrorist".

[-] anarchost@lemm.ee 9 points 11 months ago

When they tell you what they are, believe them the first time

I'm looking at you, theocratic fascist Matt Walsh

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[-] MaxVoltage@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

what kind of headline is this who stopped the terrorist?

[-] PersnickityPenguin@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

News organizations have started calling right wing domestic terrorists "conservative activists" now.

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[-] TwoGems@lemmy.world 77 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

These alt right morons are so stupid they can't even use the mask correctly. It doesn't even represent their ideals. This idiot saw "AnoN" and thought he'd LARP as the "hacker" 4chan.

V for Vendetta illustrator and co-creator David Lloyd:

The Guy Fawkes mask has now become a common brand and a convenient placard to use in protest against tyranny – and I'm happy with people using it, it seems quite unique, an icon of popular culture being used this way. My feeling is the Anonymous group needed an all-purpose image to hide their identity and also symbolise that they stand for individualism – V for Vendetta is a story about one person against the system. We knew that V was going to be an escapee from a concentration camp where he had been subjected to medical experiments but then I had the idea that in his craziness he would decide to adopt the persona and mission of Guy Fawkes our great historical revolutionary.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guy_Fawkes_mask

V as an idea is a revolutionary protesting against a tyrannical govenrment. Occupy wall street protestors were well known for using this mask.

This guy was shooting at protestors protesting injustice itself. Nothing about the alt right represents these ideas whatsoever. In fact, these people actively vote to keep existing oppression.

[-] TheJims@lemmy.world 33 points 11 months ago

These violent right wing extremists must be having a crisis of conscience in regards to choosing between Islamophobia and antisemitism

[-] Catoblepas@lemmy.blahaj.zone 25 points 11 months ago

Ironically a lot of the ones choosing to support Israel are wildly antisemitic. Israel just needs to exist for their end of days cult prophecies to come true. The Jewish people themselves are irrelevant.

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[-] enki@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

Guy Fawkes was a sectarian domestic terrorist. Sounds just like modern day MAGA to me.

[-] TwoGems@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

"The comics follow the story's title character and protagonist, V, an anarchist revolutionary dressed in a Guy Fawkes mask, as he begins an elaborate and theatrical revolutionist campaign to kill his former captors, bring down the fascist state, and convince the people to abandon fascism in favour of anarchy, while inspiring a young woman, Evey Hammond, to be his protégée."

The masks seem to specifically be based on the graphic novel and it's appearence. I don't agree with anarchy I guess but bringing down the fascist state is definitely not something MAGA would do. MAGATs support the fascist state. Thus why they tried to not let Biden have his election certified and tried to destroy democracy.

"David Lloyd (born 1950) is an English comics artist best known as the illustrator of the story V for Vendetta, written by Alan Moore, and the designer of its anarchist protagonist V and the modern Guy Fawkes/V mask, the latter going on to become a symbol of protest."

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Lloyd_(comics)

[-] enki@lemm.ee 3 points 11 months ago

Fawkes wanted to bring down the Church of England fascist monarchy in order to replace it with a Catholic fascist state. It's the equivalent of a Sunni terrorist group trying to overthrow a Shiite government and replace it with their own. He's a terrorist, not a hero.

Now V on the other hand, was a great role model...one second, I'm being told V was also a domestic terrorist who murdered anyone who disagreed with him. I know it's super cool and edgy to scrawl an anarchy A on your notebook and act like V was a superhero, but if you actually watch and absorb what's happening in that story, he's no better than the people he's fighting against.

[-] TwoGems@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

I view V as morally ambiguous. MAGA certainly is cringe when they use him as representation though. He was experimented on and traumatized by an evil fascist government and yes at times, ruthless and calculated in his attempts to achieve his end goal. He was harmed by the fascist government as were people he knew. He was, to a degree, driven insane, and mad by a fascist government that chose to harm him and others.

MAGA has never had, overall, a hard life in the sense that they should storm a capital to "regain" their "freedumb" to stop our legit votes except their complaints that they couldn't go to Mcdonald's for a while due to Covid. Many of them had expensive trucks, six-figure businesses, and not much to worry about. The poorer ones were of course just idiots thinking electing Trump again will somehow save them, give them privilege in his eyes, or make them wealthy.

It's understandable how V comes to be and how we interpret him morally is complex at best.

MAGA using his mask is just . . .cringe.

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[-] YoBuckStopsHere@lemmy.world 60 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)
[-] givesomefucks@lemmy.world 60 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

Hey, JP - That's a great outfit. How much do clothes cost in The Matrix?

On a serious note:

Just another example of these far right asshats being violent, and the protesters they're trying to attack showing restraint and peacefully detaining them.

Whatever thing that guy had, it looks like a real gun. He's lucky he didn't get capped as soon as he started firing it.

[-] someguy3@lemmy.ca 10 points 11 months ago* (last edited 11 months ago)

began firing several shots that sounded like compressed-air.

EPD said that the weapon was a “splatter ball gun.”

[-] prole@sh.itjust.works 28 points 11 months ago

OK...? And cops shoot black teenagers for holding cans of Arizona Iced Tea, claiming they thought it was a firearm.

This dude had a literal replica of a firearm. He brandished it like a firearm, and threatened peaceful protestors. Whether or not the gun was real isn't super relevant at this point.

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[-] Wolf_359@lemmy.world 34 points 11 months ago

Another prime specimen of the master race.

Cool truck too.

[-] TheJims@lemmy.world 23 points 11 months ago

Is he wearing his Morphious Halloween costume? Oh well… one less trump voter.

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[-] jpreston2005@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

the woman in the front seat just seems totally unbothered by what's happening around her, how high is she?

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[-] Alto@kbin.social 57 points 11 months ago

I feel like pointing out that it was a splat gun and not a firearm is pretty important.

And because I know I have to say it even though it should be obvious, no, that does not make it ok.

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[-] superguy@lemm.ee 48 points 11 months ago

Sounds like terrorism.

[-] ohlaph@lemmy.world 46 points 11 months ago

Domestic terrorist. Call them what they are.

[-] BaronVonBort@lemmy.world 27 points 11 months ago

That’s the most load bearing comma I’ve ever seen

[-] JustZ@lemmy.world 21 points 11 months ago

A half hour into the march...a white GMC Sierra 2500 pickup truck sporting multiple right-wing flags—including the Gadsden—suddenly pulled into the intersection...and began firing several shots that sounded like compressed-air.

Imagine being so stupid and gullible that you fly a Gadsden flag and fanatically support right wing facism.

[-] SkybreakerEngineer@lemmy.world 11 points 11 months ago

Not a contradiction. The whole point of fascism is "I get whatever I want, and fuck everyone else".

[-] remus989@sh.itjust.works 17 points 11 months ago

The flag says "don't tread on ME" not "don't tread on us"

[-] WeirdGoesPro@lemmy.dbzer0.com 17 points 11 months ago

“…along with 100 more of the mentioned whoopee pills.”

I’m sorry, but wtf are whoopee pills? I think they’re referring to the ecstasy, but I have been doing drugs for over 15 years and have never heard them called a whoopee pill before.

[-] OneWomanCreamTeam@sh.itjust.works 9 points 11 months ago

Sounds like a word for drugs, used by people who don't know enough about drugs to be specific.

[-] creamed_eels@toast.ooo 10 points 11 months ago

Are you saying he was hopped up on goofballs?

[-] JustZ@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

I don't see that word in the article. Maybe the article was edited?

It's slang for drugs basically, not necessarily illegal drugs. The connotation is stimulants or uppers, or even anti depressants or anti anxiety meds.

[-] chemicalprophet@lemm.ee 13 points 11 months ago

After we eat the rich can we have the ignorant for dessert?

[-] quicklime@lemm.ee 7 points 11 months ago

actual nutritive value in great doubt

[-] FlyingSquid@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

What about the ignorant rich?

[-] PigsInClover@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

Appe-teasers

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[-] jordanlund@lemmy.world 13 points 11 months ago

(Sigh) Of course when my home town hits the news it's for something like this...

[-] Draedron@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 11 months ago

Missed the comma the first time and was confused. "Masked counter protester arrested after stopping shooting"

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[-] anon_8675309@lemmy.world 8 points 11 months ago

Put the mask back on.

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 5 points 11 months ago

What a dumbass. People need to tone things down. That Jewish woman stabbed to death is another case of political dumbassery.

[-] Fecundpossum@lemmy.world 10 points 11 months ago

Actually the Detroit police chief just issued a statement that there is no evidence whatsoever leading to that conclusion. Which is probably because they have no idea what the hell happened.

[-] Nudding@lemmy.world 4 points 11 months ago

If there's anyone we can trust it's the Detroit police

[-] CharlesDarwin@lemmy.world 3 points 11 months ago

Yeah, I should have added an "if" there, since we still don't know what the motivations were. It's possible it could have been a robbery gone wrong, a random weird stalker situation, etc.

[-] Fecundpossum@lemmy.world 6 points 11 months ago

Statistically she was most likely to be killed by a man in her close circle. Boyfriend, jilted ex, etc. curious to find out what happened.

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[-] RunningSpaces@lemm.ee 4 points 11 months ago

And so it's time to go in armed

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