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[–] django@discuss.tchncs.de 183 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Not everyone can cough up the cash for some free-range organic black hole.

[–] sexual_tomato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 41 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (1 children)

If I read this post without any context I would think "this guy is too poor to hire a black prostitute" and not " this guy doesn't have a particle accelerator capable of making a miniature black hole"

[–] django@discuss.tchncs.de 18 points 2 weeks ago

And this is why you should not skip your physics classes.

[–] ProvableGecko@lemmy.world 7 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Do we have brandnewsentence on lemmy?

[–] django@discuss.tchncs.de 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

!brandnewsentence@lemmy.world

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[–] Rozauhtuno@lemmy.blahaj.zone 127 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Don't buy lab-grown black holes, it's not quite the same if it's not mined by a child in South Africa. And it should cost at least three times your salary, otherwise your spouse will be ashamed.

[–] CileTheSane@lemmy.ca 30 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's only a black hole if it comes from the black region of space. Otherwise it's just a sparkling dense mass.

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[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 111 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (5 children)

Maybe not the actual referenced article, but its close:

https://www.livescience.com/black-hole-analog-confirms-hawking.html

While the study was testing for a specific kind of energy radiated by an artificial micro black hole...

What's being glossed over is the broad concept and implications of Hawking Radiation.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawking_radiation

Simply put, a tiny micro black hole will evaporate itself out of existence quite rapidly.

There is no danger of such a thing growing and consuming everything like an expanding katamari damacy ball.

[–] moody 48 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

There is no danger of such a thing growing and consuming everything like an expanding katamari damacy ball.

Damn.

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Thought we had an out.. Nope we got to tackle fascism and climate change the hard way

[–] moody 9 points 2 weeks ago

Na na na na na na Katamari

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[–] Benjaben@lemmy.world 16 points 2 weeks ago

Yeah, until we get a micro black hole that's piloted by a competent Katamari player, then it's over!

[–] interdimensionalmeme@lemmy.ml 11 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

What is the minimum size until it will grow faster than it evaporates? And can we make one if we try really hard?

[–] sp3tr4l@lemmy.zip 27 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

https://www.vttoth.com/CMS/physics-notes/311-hawking-radiation-calculator

Indeed, any black hole with a mass greater than about 0.75% of the Earth's mass is colder than the cosmic background, and thus its mass increases for now. As the universe expands and cools, however, eventually the black hole may begin to lose mass-energy through Hawking radiation.

Size isn't actually the main factor, mass is.

A teaspoon of what neutron stars are made of weighs as much as Mt. Everest.

Its the mass thats important, and apparently the threshold for an actually stable black hole is 0.75% the mass of Earth, 4.48 x 10²² kg .... or, roughly 2/3 the mass of the Moon.

(The Moon's mass is roughly 1/81th that of Earth's. It ks far, far less dense.)

So... basically 0 chance in our natural life times we'll figure out how to convert the Moon into a blackhole, lol.

EDIT:

There... could theoretically be a wandering black hole of aporoximately that mass... but even if it entered our solar system, chances are it would just get thrown out, deflected by Jupiter and the Sun, and it would only maybe eat some ice in the Kuiper belt, dust and maybe very small asteroids in the asteroid belt if it somehow made it past Jupiter.

Black holes don't have infinite gravitational vaccuum power that extends infinitely, because they do not have infinite mass.

if they did, the occurence of one would instantly eat the entire universe at the speed of gravity, which is the speed of light.

They have as much gravity as their mass says they should, and they obey the same orbital dynamics as every other massive celestial body.

[–] Revan343@lemmy.ca 18 points 2 weeks ago

We're fucked if a black hole hits us, but we're fucked if anything with the same mass hits us

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[–] LaunchesKayaks@lemmy.world 93 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

If you can't grow your own black holes, store-bought is fine.

[–] RampantParanoia2365@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago

I really prefer wild Atlantic black holes.

[–] rumba@lemmy.zip 10 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

It's not that hard, all you needs a little Scots turf builder black hole edition.

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.dbzer0.com 12 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

I keep hearing commericals for them advertising to kill clover. Always annoys me. If clover grows in your yard, your yard likely needs the nutrients (nitrogen likely). Also, it helps bee populations, which helps well... Life.

Clover was never a weed until weed killer came around out and killed it with everything else in the grass. So they started an ad campaign that told people it was a weed and convinced people that white flowers in your yard look bad.

So now everytime I hear an advertisement that mentions killing clover I remind myself not to buy products by the brand who says it. Also, clover honey is delicious.

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[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

i prefer wild-generated blackholes, sources from a star.

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[–] ouRKaoS@lemmy.today 85 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Cabin in the Woods

Who had 'Lab grown Black Hole?'

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[–] UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee 65 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Us developing an actual black hole would be one of the best things humanity has ever done. It would kinda be like inventing techniques to make fire.

We could throw shit around the orbit of the black hole and get fusion. Not just deuterium fusion! Even proton proton fusion. Our energy needs would be solved practically forever.

We could conduct a crazy amount of experiments on the black hole, see quantum effects of gravity and whatnot.

Maybe we could build one of em Alcubierre drives that don't need exotic matter?

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 52 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Can you imagine what a "black hole fusion accident" could look like?

[–] Natanox@discuss.tchncs.de 90 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

No, of course not. The accident eats all the light I'd need for that.

[–] Nougat@fedia.io 12 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I mean, you could imagine it for a moment.

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[–] almost1337@lemm.ee 22 points 2 weeks ago (16 children)

Pretty sure any black hole we create would evaporate from hawking radiation before it could be used for anything outside of research.

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[–] Asetru@feddit.org 18 points 2 weeks ago (7 children)

Yeah.

Then somebody drops it and it just falls down to the planet's core and eats our fucking world.

[–] OwlPaste@lemmy.world 23 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

The way we are going, its for the best

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[–] leisesprecher@feddit.org 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

That's not really how black holes work. They evaporate really quickly when they're small enough. And if they're small, they don't have much gravity either.

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[–] UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee 9 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Ok, so even if it "falls down", it will probably evaporate way before it even reaches the center. Even if it doesn't, it will be take A VERY LONG TIME for it to get big enough to eat the planet out or whatever.

It is very VERY difficult to make something fall inside a black hole. Mostly, stuff just zooms right past it at incredible speeds.

The earth would be consumed by the sun way before it gets consumed by a black hole.

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[–] scaramobo@lemmynsfw.com 17 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

One of the first things we will use it for is to make a new weapon of mass destruction. Mark my words.

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[–] FiskFisk33@startrek.website 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Tiny black holes are the kind of thing that physically cant exist for more than a few like picosecods or something ridiculous like that before evaporating into radio waves.

[–] UraniumBlazer@lemm.ee 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We kinda don't know for sure though. The tinier the black hole gets, the more it enters into the realm of quantum mechanics. We have no clue how quantum gravity works, so ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

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[–] truthfultemporarily@feddit.org 9 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

Unfortunately an Alcubierre drive dumps a shitload of high energy radiation in the direction of travel when it stops. We would sterilize every world we get to.

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[–] Geodad@lemm.ee 50 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

pokes black hole C’mon, devour Earth.

[–] Lyrl@lemm.ee 27 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

It's wild that there is so much space between atoms (and inside them, between the elctron orbitals and the nucleus), and black holes are so incredibly dense, that a small black hole can fall all the way through the Earth and not hit enough matter to gain appreciable mass.

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[–] mumblerfish@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Did they drop "analogue" or "simulated" from the title?

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[–] Erasmus@lemmy.world 15 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I remember seeing Event Horizon.

This won’t end well.

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[–] Siethron@lemmy.world 13 points 2 weeks ago (13 children)

There isn't enough mass in our solar system to sustain a black hole, less on a scientists' research budget.

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[–] lugal@lemmy.dbzer0.com 13 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

"i have become death destroyer of worlds"

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[–] iAvicenna@lemmy.world 8 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

mom can we adopt a lab grown black hole?

[–] lost_faith@lemmy.ca 11 points 2 weeks ago

Mom: We have a black hole at home - points to the teen age brother

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