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[–] troed@fedia.io 366 points 2 weeks ago (9 children)

Join our Discord server

crying in decentralization efforts

[–] douglasg14b@lemmy.world 199 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Hell, even worse, crying in the lost information. Discord is a black hole where community knowledge goes to die.

It's the worst.

[–] MrScottyTay@sh.itjust.works 72 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

I hate it so much, even when I NEED to go there for help and support, I know I'm likely the tenth person to ask the same question. I honestly don't know why so many people love this way of support, just document it!

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[–] harrys_balzac@lemmy.dbzer0.com 124 points 2 weeks ago (6 children)

The Discord-based "support" makes it a "meh." The main devs alt-right BS makes it a "hard pass."

[–] Imhotep@lemmy.world 72 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Lemmy was created by a tankie, many of whose opinions I abhor.

As long as it's FOSS and doesn't inherently promote their beliefs, I will use the software.

I agree it's not great and I'd prefer if it weren't made by imbeciles

[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 41 points 2 weeks ago (5 children)

Tankies are annoying, but they're not on the same level as fascists.

[–] cmhe@lemmy.world 47 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (6 children)

TBH, it is very difficult to me differentiating between the different flavors of authoritarians.

Maybe someone can make an easy to understand comparison matrix? You know, "Kills people because they have a different opinion.", "Suppresses minorities.", etc.

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[–] FundMECFSResearch@lemmy.blahaj.zone 12 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Both facists and tankies have genocided disabled people and selectively killed anarchists.

As a disabled anarchist, they end up seeming pretty similar to me.

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[–] stardust@lemmy.ca 46 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Why always discord.... Why!!!!

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[–] Scrollone@feddit.it 20 points 2 weeks ago

Oh shit. I despise Discord, why not a normal forum?!

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[–] kokolores@discuss.tchncs.de 80 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

The main issue I have right now: the jurisdiction of this is in the US, and to be honest, I don’t trust the US that much when it comes to privacy laws regarding the (near) future.

[–] not_IO@lemmy.blahaj.zone 31 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

what r they gonna do if it's open source and doesn't collect data. worry more about ur OS

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[–] Ledericas@lemm.ee 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

the EU wants backdoors to encryptions, so eu not any better.

[–] kokolores@discuss.tchncs.de 16 points 2 weeks ago

It certainly is the lesser evil though.

[–] ambitiousslab@lemmy.ml 78 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (11 children)

I donate to Ladybird and Servo, and I hope they succeed. We need serious competition and a check on Mozilla (not to mention Chrome and Safari).

That said, I'm sad that neither Ladybird or Servo are licensed under strong copyleft licenses. We need user-oriented browsers now more than ever, and strong copyleft enables that. I worry that, even if these engines are successful, they will be co-opted by proprietary browsers and eventually superseded by them.

This happened before - both Chrome and Safari ultimately derive from KHTML, Konqueror's browser engine. If KHTML had been licnesed under the GPL instead of the LGPL, Chrome and Safari (and not just their engines) may have been free software today. Or, at the very least, it would have been much more difficult for Apple and Google to get started.

That said, I wish Ladybird the best. There donation = no influence policy is excellent, and I really, really hope they can stick to it in the long term.

[–] phoenixz@lemmy.ca 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

No.

If khtml had been GPL, it simply never would have been used for chrome or safari, some other engine would have been picked.

Anything but real open source for these types of companies

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[–] superfes@lemmy.world 71 points 2 weeks ago

Good, the world is in dire need of competition in this arena.

[–] the_q@lemm.ee 64 points 2 weeks ago (8 children)

To go along with the alt right stuff, one of their major donors is Shopify.

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[–] troed@fedia.io 20 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Alright, read up on it a bit more. Sadly the language choices (C++ now, maybe Swift later) rubs me the wrong way for something that needs to be incredibly secure against attacks. I really really support additional browser engines, but likely not this one.

Thus I think Servo is a better choice for those looking to contribute. IMHO.

[–] LeFantome@programming.dev 21 points 2 weeks ago

Quite happy to see Servo coming along again. I am still excited for Ladybird and it seems more likely to deliver a truly viable browser sooner.

I am not a Swift dev but I think it has decent memory safety as well. I think it is one of the reasons Ladybird is moving to it. They evaluated Rust and decided it lacked the OOP features they needed.

The C++ that Ladybird writes is also very good. They have their own standard library (written for SerenityOS) which is very modern including memory safety and security. Still C++ though of course.

[–] mesamunefire@lemmy.world 18 points 2 weeks ago
[–] aproposnix@scribe.disroot.org 15 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

We definitely need more competition in the browser space, I just wish it wasn't using such a permissive license as the BSD.

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[–] MITM0@lemmy.world 14 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Once Servo is finished, we might have a browser rennaisance (I hope)

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[–] Bogus5553@lemm.ee 13 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

I'll be great. The big question is how long it's left until a stable release

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