I still believe the name should be Linux Subsystem for Windows. The other way around sound like Proton
That would require Microsoft admitting they come in second.
Microsoft has always been terrible at naming things. And at developing things. And at literally everything.
I'd say the one thing they've been decent at is input devices, oddly enough. I was pretty happy with my SideWinder 3D Pro joystick and my Intellimouse Explorer back in the day. I also still (very occasionally) use an Xbox 360 controller attached to my Linux PC.
No credit for Xboxes themselves, let alone other hardware like Zunes and Windows Phones and shit, of course.
They were historically good at input devices because they were the only ones with enough weight to get manufacturers to stop fucking around and use xinput, which guaranteed their hegemony with normal controllers for a long time. 5-10 years ago, it was basically impossible to get a normal controller (ie Xbox or ps layout) that was not approved by Microsoft, working in all games.
Itâs also usually lawyers that create these names. I worked on databases for IBM Cloud and they were all called âIBM Cloud Databases for Elasticsearchâ and what have you. Despite it being an offering of the database on IBMâs cloud.
Since Elasticsearch is a brand name, the âhostâ corporation corporation has to present it as a product âforâ the brand name rather than as the brand name itself to avoid implying that they are acting AS Linux or Elasticsearch or whoever is the third party.
It actually makes sense. It's a subsystem in Windows (therefore a windows subsystem) that makes Linux work
To this day, I still don't understand what takes windows updates so dam long. Not sure about Mac, but Linux takes, what, 5 minutes at most if you've gone a while.
This is a byproduct of one of the largest and more ignored differences between windows and linux. The fact that Linux let's you modify files while they are open whereas windows doesn't.
This means that you can update a linux system by just replacing the files with the new ones while it runs. On the other side, Windows can't modify its own files while it runs, so instead it has a second entire OS to update itself, and requires a reboot to unload all the files and boot from the updater without locking windows files.
In some sense this would even seem an advantage of Windows. (I know it's the fundamental reason for many hangs and freezes, but the idea that a file is a lockable resource doesn't seem that bad.)
Mac updates are less frequent but take longer. They also restart the machine. One difference though is that my mac never took it upon itself to start an update without asking my opinion.
/laughs in company enforced updates/
First they nag you. Then they nag even more. Then they blur out everything making your system unusable unless you hit update.
Lack of proper package management is my assumption.
I hear it takes a long time on Macs too!
thankfully I don't have this problem on my Gentoo
Very true for mainstream distros, but there's more: Linux updates in the background. No matter how long it takes(if you for example use Gentoo), there is zero downtime. And with kexec your system can be its own bootloader and can do insane stuff like starting new kernel without re-running POST, which is on servers is very important(because they have shitty BIOS that takes ages to boot).
WSL allowed my stupid Windows desktop to run Pihole. Very cool? Meh.
Not as cool as running Pihole on an old android phone. Somehow thatâs much more stable.
Everything that doesn't involve Microsoft is more stable.
Meh, Microsoft has put out some shitty fucking software but Windows XP, 7, and 10 were tight.
The only time any of these OSâs fell apart was when I downloaded viruses from sketchy sites.
The security on XP was comically bad. When people say "physical access is full access," they aren't even considering XP despite it being the textbook definition to the phrase. You were able to access the command line without even logging in.
I will never understand why people liked Windows XP, I'd rather use Gentoo Linux from 2002 compiled from a stage 1 tarball than this steaming pile of shit. Windows 7 was solid, but 10 was (again) the biggest piece of garbage. Horrible UWP UI, Cortana, the garbage Windows Store, the Windows Phone integration, the useless Xbox app, the shitty version of OneNote, crappy MS Edge, Candy Crush ads in the fucking start menu and tons of data collection. Oh yeah, what a great operating system!
I will never understand why people liked Windows XP, Iâd rather use Gentoo Linux from 2002 compiled from a stage 1 tarball than this steaming pile of shit.
It was necessary for games. (Source: I dual-booted Windows XP and Gentoo Linux in 2002.)
I once tried wsl on my work machine instead of having to deal with cygwin or msys2. Unfortunately the virus scanner didn't like that a whole lot and my account was locked. Man do I love enterprise problems on top of normal problems.
That must have been an incredibly shitty virus scanner if it complains about Windows features.
Enterprise security software tends to err much more on the side of caution.
There are plenty of Windows features who's usage will flag because they are also favourite tactics by actual threats, such as Powershell one liners. Bonus if it's in Base64.
Powershell one liners are uglier than the worst winner of Obfuscated Perl Contest. Super cringe....
My company's shut off my Internet for using visual studio. Sometimes they're just too aggressive
WSL, the best example of how absolute freedom will be misused!
Why? Whatâs wrong with WSL?
Itâs backwards lol. We want windows stuff to work in Linux so we have a stable system that can do everything we need, instead they gave us Linux on top the unstable pile of shit we all hate
My director got knocked off in the middle of a call where we were trying to establish requirements with a specialist due to a Windows update. I would have laughed if these guys weren't worth so much.
what does windows updates have to do with WSL
WSL exists on a Windows system which means you're still subject to Microsoft's rather insane update practices.
linux: sudo pacman -Syyu/sudo apt update/whatever your distro uses
windows: updates whenever the hell it feels like
See also ->
Linux: you need to update some core system component? Don't worry, we'll keep right on running until you decide to reboot.
Windows: notepad.exe has an update, we're rebooting in .3s I hope you can save fuckin quick bro
Linux: hey dude, you should probably restart....I mean it's been months.
Windows: so imma just gonna nuke your work, ok cool.
Honestly incredible that this issue has persisted in OEM versions for decades but seems to be progressively getting worse instead of better, now affecting even LTSC copies (for people too stupid to remember to turn automatic updates off). Windows, if you take hours to update a machine twice a week then you're making important equipment inoperable during that time. Please fix that, or you will lose market share even faster than you inevitably will.
not trying to be the one person who pushes linux down everyones throats, but in all of my time using it i had to restart to update only once
You do have to reboot to use your new kernel after an update. But it's just a normal reboot, not the whole blocking installation process like in Windows.
And a Linux reboot takes like 40s at most and everything works. Where in Windows it takes like 2m to be able to log in and a good 5-10m for all the apps to start working at normal speed
Look at those eyes, this guy is peaking
WSL is just a weird and slow VM. Still beats C++ development with visual studio tho.
