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Says exec of company that has objectively caused more environmental harm to the world than any others

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[-] Semi-Hemi-Demigod@kbin.social 115 points 1 year ago

Petrochemicals and the energy from fossil fuels did provide the needed food and energy to boost our standard of living.

HOWEVER

By the time we knew they were affecting the climate, we had the technology to move off of them and didn't because of assholes like this.

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[-] WaxedWookie@lemmy.world 48 points 1 year ago

They're not selling a product that's evil - they are evil.

Petrochemicals lack the agency required for moral culpability.

[-] Carighan@lemmy.world 36 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

we're not selling a product that is evil

Oh I get it. The oil isn't inherently evil. You are, both as a CEO and as a company! I agree, in fact. If we left the oil safely in the earth, there'd be nothing evil about it.

[-] jaspersgroove@lemm.ee 31 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

“We’re not selling an evil product, we’re just running a multibillion dollar cartel in an evil way. That’s totally different.”

[-] Wogi@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

We don't profit off of suffering, we provide it for free!

[-] Jax@sh.itjust.works 30 points 1 year ago

Plastic in the oceans, Co2 and heavy metals in the air, war, and above all: Wednesday morning traffic (worst day where I am due to WFH rules still being decently widespread).

Looks like someone needs a bullet.

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[-] Murais@lemmy.one 30 points 1 year ago

You're selling Earth blood that makes the sky melt.

That's pretty fucking evil.

[-] TwoGems@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Don't forget the brown people that die in the name of oil or propping up dictatorships like Saudi Arabia

[-] Bakkoda@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Well I for one want to know how my oil got under their land. Why is no one asking these important questions?

[-] ForestOrca@kbin.social 20 points 1 year ago

So basically fraud in service of destroying our only planet on the way to making a gajillion dollars. Fair enough, so we extract enough of that money to reverse the catastrophic harm they have done.

[-] hogunner@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I hope you’re right but I fear it may be a Humpty Dumpty situation.

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 20 points 1 year ago

Oil isn't evil. Oil has many uses outside of being burned for energy, and once we transition away from fossil fuels entirely there will still be a place for oil companies.

This isn't what he meant, of course, but hopefully his successor will understand that and make the pivots necessary for the company to survive.

[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 year ago

Like plastics? I can only think of fuel and plastic uses for oil.

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

It's also a component in some industrial products, primarily lubricants and solvents - the latter of which was kinda funny to me because you commonly use solvents to clean off oil

[-] JohnDClay@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 year ago

Oh I guess road asphalt is a contributer too. I wonder if those uses eventually contribute to ghgs though degradation over time.

Petrol uses

[-] SCB@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

I didn't know about asphalt, so thanks for that.

Also curious about potential ghg there.

[-] Tavarin@lemmy.ca 2 points 1 year ago

Asphalt does off-gas compounds, though not sure how many of those compounds are GHGs:

https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.abb9785

[-] calypsopub@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

Vitamin and mineral supplements

[-] deezbutts@lemm.ee 15 points 1 year ago
[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

I bet we don't even have to baste him he's so greasy

[-] Rottcodd@kbin.social 11 points 1 year ago

Well yeah - it's not an evil product. As an inanimate object, it can't possess a moral quality.

Moral qualities are only rightly assigned to conscious beings - like, for example, corporate CEOs.

[-] Coreidan@lemmy.world 10 points 1 year ago

Nice mental gymnastics. That’s the name of the game.

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[-] conditional_soup@lemm.ee 6 points 1 year ago

Gosh, these guys really are following the big tobacco playbook, huh?

"Oil isn't evil, it's just a material, it doesn't have will or consciousness."

He's right of course, the oil itself isn't forcing anyone to use it. It's the decades of collaboration between the fossil fuel lobby and the government that's entrenched our fossil fuel dependent infrastructure, along with the resolute refusal of all fossil fuels companies to turn their backs on making as much money as they possibly can right this instant (because smart long term growth is illegal, brain dead quarterly growth is now my friend) and make good on their promises to pivot their energy portfolios.

In so many words, oil isn't evil, but the people running the oil companies are.

[-] people_are_cute@lemmy.sdf.org 3 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)
[-] RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world 2 points 1 year ago

By better you mean aiding in killing off most higher life forms and ocean life?

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