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[–] 1luv8008135@lemmy.world 68 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Don’t worry, they will recover multiple times that amount when the ship steadies as they’re probably busy acquiring assets at rock bottom prices that they’ve caused by supporting the Trump presidency.

I’m hazarding a guess and would love for someone to fact check this but every time there is a recession I feel the rich get richer and everyone else loses.

[–] Lemminary@lemmy.world 20 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Not just recessions, but the pandemic was a huge boon. I guess any crisis that hits the market just right will get milked by these assholes.

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[–] kn0wmad1c@programming.dev 13 points 1 week ago

You know that thing where chatbots talk to each other and it gets progressively more and more nonsensical and bonkers?

I imagine a scenario kind of like this, but with billionaires telling each other that they're billionaires and it's fine to loan money because they have speculative collateral. So billionaires will borrow from billionaires who cover the bill by borrowing from other billionaires who borrow from the first billionaire I mentioned, all because "they're good for it. Look at how much stock they own."

Meanwhile they all have functionally nothing in liquid.

[–] P00ptart@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

When people are hurting is when it's easiest to take advantage.

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago

Yes, 100%. They only lose money when they sell their shares at a loss. And I am sure they would only do this in ways that benefit them financially.

The billionaires will do just fine. Their companies may use this as an excuse to do some layoffs though.

[–] Fingolfinz@lemmy.world 67 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Hell yeah. Just filled my Amazon cart with $3000 of good that I’ll never buy just to fuck with their inventory and I’ll schedule a test drive for a Tesla tomorrow that I won’t show up for to celebrate

[–] danc4498@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Damn, does it really work that way?

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[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 48 points 1 week ago (22 children)

Everyone ITT is cheering but my retirement account has taken a fucking beating for the same reason. The billionaires aren't hurt by the stock market falling through the floor, it's their slaves that are. A year ago I had a chance at retiring a little early. I don't see that ever happening now.

[–] Mvlad88@lemmy.world 36 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Millennial checking in: you guys have the chance to retire?

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm an elder millennial. Yeah, hopefully eventually... We'll see.

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[–] NewDark 18 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Who were the people pushing for 401ks instead of pensions again?

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I've no idea? I have no choice in the matter either way. I'm just watching Trump destroy my future and seeing it cheered because it supposedly also hurts billionaires (it doesn't)

[–] NewDark 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It's the billionaire business owners. They want you to have a false class solidarity with them given your pittance fraction of the market, while giving their own assets higher valuations.

You're getting screwed, don't get me wrong, but there's a reason why.

This is also a response from a place of powerlessness. You can't blame people for enjoying the tiniest fraction of schadenfreude when they're getting constantly fucked by this system.

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah I understand that today's retirement accounts save these assholes money. I happen to work non profit but they influenced society such that 403b is basically the same.

I would agree with you about the schadenfreude, but it's not real. I have health and mental issues that could be greatly relieved by working 5 less years of my life. To these fucks, losing 20 billion dollars is nothing but a dick size thing. They don't have to worry at all and they don't have to work at all to begin with

[–] grue@lemmy.world 4 points 1 week ago

It's not just about saving them money. It's about breaking working class solidarity by forcing our interests to align with theirs.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

OH OH, ME, PICK ME! Was it Republicans and business owners?!

[–] piccolo@sh.itjust.works 14 points 1 week ago

Welcome to the club. Us millennials never had the plan to retire.

[–] couch1potato@lemmy.dbzer0.com 9 points 1 week ago (5 children)

I moved my 401k from 100% stocks to 100% cash equivalents 3 weeks ago... the writing on the wall was right there

[–] Tinidril@midwest.social 4 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Now you are invested in dollars instead of stocks, but the writing is on the wall for the dollar as well. Just wait until all our former allies start dumping their dollar reserves.

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[–] Nollij@sopuli.xyz 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Unless you are retiring soon, this isn't particularly important. For anyone still in the grind, this just means buying the dip.

But it sounds like you are retiring soon, and need more stable investments. I wish you luck on that.

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[–] person1@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago (2 children)

Many good people in Ukraine don't have that problem anymore, because they're already dead as a result of Trump's decisions :/

[–] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And yes this isn't the most monstrous thing trump has done. Hanging Ukraine out to dry is unconscionable, but this post was about economics. The thing trump promised to be good about and he was believed. He's nuking our economy from orbit and no one can help us. It's as though he wants to hurt everyone "beneath" him.

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[–] whaleiam@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago

Stock market ain’t nearly the same gamble when you have enough money to sway it.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)

All my investments are in the net negative now, thousands of dollars wasted, and I will still tell you this is the right direction for the human beings living on the planet. We really don't have forever to keep being crushed under their weight.

[–] PrettyFlyForAFatGuy@feddit.uk 6 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I'm a European that was heavily invested in British defense stocks. When your boy and his mutt attacked Zelensky in the whitehouse i bought more of them and expanded to Europe as a whole.

Trump throwing the American Economy and Hegemony against the wall has been great for me.

My portfolio has grown 20% since you numptys voted him in.

[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago

Hey buddy really quick, don't ever fucking call that demon my boy again. If I was in the same room with him, it would be worth spending my life in prison to end his sorry existence.

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[–] eric5949@lemmy.world 21 points 1 week ago

Billionaires can afford to lose 209 billion because they can buy up the rest for cheap when we're all destitute.

[–] Rentlar@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 week ago (1 children)

And I certainly hope they continue to lose more of their value.

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[–] vga@sopuli.xyz 19 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

After first having gained $300 billion? Y'all know that the stock pumping started two months earlier than Jan. 20?

[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 1 week ago

Way to steal joy from me. But you're right to point this out.

[–] Bubbaonthebeach@lemmy.ca 17 points 1 week ago

Could only wish that caused them as much pain as the average American, Canadian, Mexican, European is getting walloped with every day under Trump.

[–] wwb4itcgas@lemm.ee 17 points 1 week ago

The 1st rule of Applied Spite: If you're going down, make sure to cling to the bastard who pushed you off the edge.

[–] BobTheDestroyer@lemm.ee 15 points 1 week ago (1 children)

If you're linking to a paywalled site like bloomberg, could you please provide the text in the post, or link to a archive.org copy? All I know about this is the title and the first paragraph of the article. Frustrating.

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[–] iamblue@lemm.ee 13 points 1 week ago (1 children)

It’s always a nice headline to read at first and then you remember the real gut feeling is only felt when the losses are paired with a working class salary.

When you go from 400b to 200b, it literally changes nothing about your life like losing 15k when you have 30.

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[–] Shaper@lemm.ee 11 points 1 week ago

It may be dangerous to be america's enemy, but to be america's ally is fatal.

[–] Showroom7561@lemmy.ca 10 points 1 week ago

And their quality of life has been completely unaffected, unfortunately.

[–] aamram@lemmy.dbzer0.com 10 points 1 week ago

Those MF are shorting the market right now making billions on the process. Once market hits rock bottom, the will buy back everything at the cheapest price and end up making even more on the way up. There's really no way to hurt them on that matter. As most people are saying, the only people being hurt from this is the working class.

[–] Pk_thunder@sh.itjust.works 9 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean, stocks go down they could have been the ones that sold their shares and are holding cash now moving the market. Would have been much easier to have just taxed them so they really lost 200 billion and it was put to good use.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 6 points 1 week ago

There is currently a way to tax them, but we'll have to act before the GOP closes it.

[–] TiggerYumYum@lemm.ee 8 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I wish this would only damage the billionaires.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@ponder.cat 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Yeah. It’s a little bit of a misleading article, to be honest. They didn’t “lose” anything. Conditions changed for them, and they’re planning to clean up on a bunch of undervalued assets once this entire bullshit is winding down (whenever that happens), and they’ll wind up hugely ahead of where they started out.

There are other possibilities of course, but all of the other possibilities that I think are realistic involve complete collapse. Which they will, almost certainly, be positioned to survive much better than the average peasant will.

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[–] Godofdirt@lemmy.world 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Don't let them take it back

$200bn of ownership has NOT changed hands.

They've just had a property revaluation.

[–] Vari@lemm.ee 5 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] JokeDeity@lemm.ee 4 points 1 week ago

It's a good start but not nearly enough.

[–] SaveTheTuaHawk@lemmy.ca 4 points 1 week ago (1 children)

oh no. Has anyone called Jeff? is he ok? Should be start a crowdfund?

[–] Noodle07@lemmy.world 1 points 6 days ago

He already has a crowdfunding, it's amazon

[–] tacosanonymous@lemm.ee 3 points 1 week ago

That’s a start, I guess.

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