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[–] tree_frog@lemm.ee 152 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago) (10 children)

And this is how you get folks to stay home on the couch in 2026.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 63 points 6 days ago (11 children)

And then yell at them in comment sections when the democrats lose to fascists again.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 34 points 6 days ago (3 children)

If you don't vote for them... They will lose...

They're not a hockey team where it doesn't matter if you participate as a fan or not. If they don't get votes then they don't get political power.

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 10 points 6 days ago (32 children)

And what is the difference between them winning and losing? I’ve been voting for them for years and hating it every time and getting nothing but excuses.

[–] atzanteol@sh.itjust.works 15 points 6 days ago (12 children)

And what is the difference between them winning and losing?

Are you fucking joking?

[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 20 points 6 days ago (18 children)

I’m frustrated. Democrats win and don’t get anything done because of republicans and then lose and don’t bother resisting the republicans.

Republicans make things worse, of course , but democrats don’t or can’t make things better.

[–] Spacehooks@reddthat.com 4 points 5 days ago (4 children)

that's a difference. Right there. Dems don't make things better but they don't make things worse. I hate dems but until new party forms I will encourage people to vote dem or at least third party over staying at home because that's put us here. Once the GOP is gone we can collectively give dems the middle finger. DNC knows this which is why they act the way they do.

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[–] NotSteve_@lemmy.ca 4 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (10 children)

My (and other) country being threatened with invasion? Not only ruining your only economy but intentionally destroying countless others? Setting up nazi-esque camps? LGBTQ+ people being othered to the point of violence? What is wrong with you

Even if the Democrats did absolutely nothing the moment they got voted in to the day they were voted out, it’d be immeasurably better than the shit the Republicans are doing.

This way of thinking is why the rest of the world is getting pissed off at ALL Americans, not just the Republicans.

Edit: do some harm reduction and THEN fight for better politics. With the way things are going there’s only going to be one party to “vote” for anyway

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[–] madcaesar@lemmy.world 9 points 5 days ago (1 children)
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[–] prole@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 6 days ago (3 children)

What an irrational response that would be. I see this as even more reason to not be ambivalent.

[–] itsprobablyfine@sh.itjust.works 12 points 6 days ago

I think you're missing their point. They aren't saying they are going to do that, or that it's a good idea, they're saying enough people are going to react that way for it to be a problem. It's not good enough to be correct, you need to be convincing. Just because I can hold my nose and vote for the lesser evil doesn't mean I'm not concerned that not everyone will.

[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 9 points 6 days ago

I agree, but we should all be very well aware that most voters are going to act irrationally and conduct ourselves accordingly. Any logical observer could see that the Dems candidate wasn't as bad as the Repubs in 2016 and 2024, and look at all the good that did us.

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[–] gAlienLifeform@lemmy.world 73 points 6 days ago

Good news (archived), centrists up for election in 2026 and a bunch of other Senators are refusing to go along with Schumer here because they have gotten so many phone calls and emails from their voters about this one

Keep calling them, this one will come down to the wire

[–] LogicalDrivel@sopuli.xyz 49 points 6 days ago

To go stand on his soap box and talk a big game a couple days ago, and then pull this bullshit is just a slap in the face. This screams collusion or bribery or some other shady shit. It used to be a conspiracy theory to say this, but, there ain't two parties. Its one party and a few outliers that aren't invited to the party.

[–] match@pawb.social 11 points 5 days ago

Rare case where i want to read the article first-hand instead of on archive.is. I want NPR to know this is getting clicks.

[–] ikidd@lemmy.world 12 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Welcome to the fucking club.

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[–] MyOpinion@lemm.ee 31 points 6 days ago (3 children)

This Nazi run government has to be shutdown period.

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[–] burgerpocalyse@lemmy.world 22 points 6 days ago (1 children)

if the cr passes then the administration will have a substantial slush fund from the departments and agencies that have been scuttled with which to do whatever they want with. a shutdown is really bad but the other options are worse. this is harm reduction

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[–] Dragomus@lemmy.world 18 points 6 days ago (6 children)

So it's a bit of a catch22 situation... Shutdown the government by blocking the new CR or have the government demolished by accepting the new CR ...

But the government will get derailed regardless.

The one thing that seems to be overlooked is that the Democrats are supposed to give opposition/resistance to the Republican plans, which does mean blocking a bad new proposal ...

If it were up to me I'd use whatever media I can find and prior to the vote just loudly announce being against the new regulations, so just pre-empt republican fingerpoiting and take the sting out of their shutdown accusations...

[–] SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world 15 points 6 days ago (1 children)

I would rather shut down the government than allow the changes to who controls the money.

If Democrats vote yes on this then the spending power of congress gets handed to Trump/Musk.

If this passes then congress no longer has control of tax dollars

[–] Pacattack57@lemmy.world 8 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Schumers support of the bill honestly makes no sense. You’re exactly right allowing this to pass gives up all of the congressional spending power. Him saying the shutdown is worse makes absolutely no fucking sense. He’s voting to remove checks and balances. He needs to resign because he’s clearly not fit to hold office with that opinion.

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[–] kingofras@lemmy.world 19 points 6 days ago (4 children)

As a non US person, it is deeply sad to read this two party crap even at this advanced stage of the collapse of your country. When are you lot going to learn that you already don’t have an impartial head of state, you don’t have impartial supreme court. Everything is political in USA. So you really fcking want to make sure you have more than 3 parties. You’re still not thinking outside the box, and you’re keeping this us them dynamic alive.

With the weaponisation of the DOJ, the dems have Kompromat on them too. They are all scared. They are all walking the same line. That’s why Bernie is so powerful, and people are doubting if AOC is up for the job.

The GOP is infected by Trump and anything from the McCain era is long gone. The DEMs have failed to lead since Obama. There are no two parties left. There is a carcass of an old political establishment leftover, and the only guy saying anything that makes sense is a geriatric that can drop dead any day.

Two parties will always get you to this kind of impasse. Truly saddening to see the lack of creative political thinking on a progressive platform like Lemmy.

[–] earphone843@sh.itjust.works 20 points 6 days ago (4 children)

What exactly do you expect us to do besides a violent revolt?

[–] kingofras@lemmy.world 12 points 6 days ago (12 children)

Violent revolt and sign an improved constitution

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[–] Semi_Hemi_Demigod@lemmy.world 11 points 6 days ago (5 children)

In their infinite wisdom our forefathers gave us a winner take all system, and when you only have one winner you get a two party system or minority rule. It’s just maths.

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These shit ass Democrats couldn't even hold out for 24 hours after announcing "We're going to stand strong!"

That's a pathetic lack of spine and leadership to capitulate that fast.

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