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[-] dgmib@lemmy.world 109 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Owen didn’t pay for C3PO twice.

Anakin built 3PO for his mom Shmi, who was a slave to Watto. Cliegg (not Owen) bought Shmi out of slavery. C3PO was already Shmi’s.

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 54 points 1 year ago

Ok, but Owen grew up with C3PO. Threepio was his mother's protocol droid, and he was around long enough to meet Beru as well.

Maybe he didn't recognize the new plating, but he should have recognized the name. He would have talked to it almost every day for his entire life.

[-] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 28 points 1 year ago

Do you specifically remember your old smartphone model LG KU2100? Could you identify in a stack of other smartphones? You used to use it every single day.

Droids in Star Wars are appliances. Nothing memorable.

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 27 points 1 year ago

If I had a talking appliance, with a unique name and a personality, I'd probably remember it. If someone tried to sell you an old game console, and it had your gamertag saved on it, you'd probably recognize it. Or maybe you named your first car, and 20 years later someone tried to sell you the same model and mentioned it was called Cecilia, you'd be like "I used to have a Honda Civic named Cecilia! What a coincidence!"

[-] AbsoluteChicagoDog@lemm.ee 5 points 1 year ago

Again, you're making droids a bigger deal than they are in Star Wars. To us they're characters. To them they're toasters.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 6 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

You're being down voted, but you're absolutely right. More characters are shown straight up ignoring the droids except when they need their function than talking to them like people. Even Anakin himself doesn't seem to regard 3P0 as a friend, or even as valuable, once he grows up a bit.

[-] tias@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 1 year ago

That's not how humans work though. Just look at how people get worked up over ChatGPT conversations or romantic relationships with Replika. So at best, the Star Wars characters are not credible.

[-] Kolanaki@yiffit.net 2 points 1 year ago

The Star Wars characters are from a galaxy far, far away. Are they even human, or just human in appearance?

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago

I'm really not. I'm using appliances in my examples. If your toaster had a name and a personality and you had to ask it to make you toast every day, you'd probably recognize it if it showed up 30 years later, even if it was now gold instead of gray.

[-] Sarsoar@lemmy.blahaj.zone 1 points 1 year ago

That name and personality is like the name and personality of siri or google assistant. I wouldn't be able to differentiate my old note 10 in a stack of SM-N970U's even if the assistant on it remmebers my preferences on news feed and autocorrect words and whatever. Even the wallpaper may be a default and stuff like that.

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 1 points 1 year ago

But everyone has the same siri or google assistant. Droid designations are relatively unique.

[-] marcos@lemmy.world 13 points 1 year ago

Tatooine is clearly an acient-Rome like place where slaves own property, so only Anakin would have brought C3PO, as parts.

And those 4 letter names couldn't be very unique...

[-] Nouveau_Burnswick@lemmy.world 9 points 1 year ago

And those 4 letter names couldn't be very unique...

36^4 for four alphanumeric (a-z plus 0-4) characters is 1,679,616 combinations.

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

How many billion people can live on a planet and how many billion planets are there in a galaxy? How many of them have how many droid slaves? Divide that by 1.7 million and you've got it.

[-] Nouveau_Burnswick@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

I also know like 8 people named Sandra. The point is that it's distinct enough to remember it as a name.

[-] marcos@lemmy.world 4 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

If 20 years from now you meet somebody named Sandra with a completely different face, coming from a completely different place, would you guess it's her after a plastic surgery?

[-] Nouveau_Burnswick@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

If they said "hey, it's me, Sanda" then probably.

Obviously C3P0 should have done more to identify himself to Owen as well.

This is all before we consider that droids can face memory wipes.

[-] dgmib@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

We don’t know what Owen’s relationship with Shmi was. Maybe he left home before Cliegg remarried, and was only there when we see him in episode 2 because he came when his dad contacted him in a panic after discovering Tuscan raiders had taken step-mom captive.

[-] Ddhuud@lemmy.world 8 points 1 year ago

In episode 3, when Senator Organa sent the droids to have their memories erased, they also used the force to make everyone (including Vader) forget about them.

[-] bjoern_tantau@swg-empire.de 19 points 1 year ago

Well, technically Cliegg bought 3PO when he bought Shmi. So in a roundabout way the funds of Owen's family went twice to acquiring 3PO.

Three times if you factor in the costs of however Anakin acquired the parts.

And then Owen's moody half-brother and his rich girlfriend just stole the droid.

[-] dgmib@lemmy.world 6 points 1 year ago

I disagree with your interpretation that Cliegg “technically” bought 3PO.

We don’t know the legal rights of slaves in that universe, but presuming this is like slaves in ancient Roman times and they can own property, then 3PO was Shmi’s from the beginning. Buying a slave wouldn’t automatically give you possession of the slave’s property, therefore it was always Shmi’s droid and Cliegg never owned it.

It’s possible that in this universe, slaves can’t own property and Cliegg bought 3PO from Watto in addition to Shmi. But I think it unlikely that Anakin would have built 3PO “to help his mom” if Watto automatically owned it. If Watto owned 3PO he would’ve sold it long before Cliegg bought Shmi.

We also don’t know that Anakin stole 3PO. If it belonged to his mom, he could have simply inherited it when she died.

One could also make the argument that 3PO was always Anakin’s property, and he just left it behind when he left Tattooine.

[-] kylekatarn@lemmy.world 38 points 1 year ago

He probably didn't recognize him because of his gold arm.

[-] Granixo@feddit.cl 16 points 1 year ago

Didin't his dad pay for it the first time tho?

[-] teft@startrek.website 15 points 1 year ago

C-3PO was only sold the one time. He followed Shmi when she was bought by Cliegg. He wasn't sold by Watto since Watto didn't own Threepio.

[-] HeyThisIsntTheYMCA@lemmy.world 14 points 1 year ago

No one can truly own Friend Besto

[-] dandroid@dandroid.app 14 points 1 year ago

He didn't recognize him because he was gold the second time.

[-] possiblylinux127@lemmy.zip 13 points 1 year ago

That honestly didn't click with me until now

[-] TonyHawksPoTater@kbin.social 10 points 1 year ago

"Goddammit, there goes my power converter fund. And all Luke wanted was to go to Tosche Station this year."

[-] stephfinitely@lemmy.world 3 points 1 year ago

The silver droid didn't have all the proticals he needed but could function else where.

this post was submitted on 26 Oct 2023
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