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[-] wheresmypillow@lemmy.one 34 points 11 months ago

Those look like neighborhoods, not military bases.

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 16 points 11 months ago

The enemy is both strong and weak. “By a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.” Source

[-] spider@lemmy.nz 6 points 11 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Indeed; that's a lot of so-called "human shields".

[-] Maximilious@kbin.social 18 points 11 months ago

It's almost like Israel was just waiting for an excuse to level the entire place. Feeling very sad for all the people who have lost thier lives due to this fued over an imaginary man. I know it's a very complicated situation but this is uncalled for.

[-] Hyperreality@kbin.social 0 points 11 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I mean, I'm sure plenty were. There are outright racial supremacists in the government. They had barely won a majority in the knesset, failed to gain a majority of votes, and were facing serious opposition because of stuff like this:

An article by former United States ambassador to Israel Martin Indyk and former Jordanian United Nations High Commissioner for Human Rights Zeid bin Ra'ad in Foreign Policy argued that the insistence of Israeli right-wing Finance Minister Bezalel Smotrich on curbing the powers of the Supreme Court, stems from a desire to "more easily enact his vision of an Israel that extends unimpeded from river to sea," as the court had previously impeded the legalization of Israeli settlements built on privately-owned Palestinian land.

But that being said, this is also simply the nature of urban warfare. Grozny, Bahkmut, Mosul, Baghdad, ... This is what urban warfare looks like. Someone shooting from the appartment building? Bomb the building.

It's not like an American war movie, but that's the reality of war. It's utterly horrific.

Not necessarily a war crime either. You're allowed to accidentally kill civilians, as long as you were proportional in your response to violence. And obviously people disagree on what is or isn't proportional, depending on which side they're on. International law probably needs to change, but it's not as if it's that relevant anyway. Might makes right is still the most important principle of international relations.

A lot of this is precision bombing. Carpet bombing would have looked and been 10x worse.

Oh, and not to be a bummer, but this? This is nothing compared to what comes next if Israel decides to launch a ground invasion.

IRC the civilian death toll recapturing Mosul from ISIS was 40,000. And that was after they allowed civilians to evacuate. Gaza is 2.5 million living on an area the size of a postage stamp, on top of a network of tunnels filled with explosives. Not as if either side give too much of a shit about civilian casulties either. The death toll will be absurdly high.

[-] Hello_there@kbin.social 16 points 11 months ago

Apartment buildings. Reminds me of Russia invading Ukraine.

[-] neuropean@kbin.social -1 points 11 months ago

I struggle to see how they aren’t comparable to Russia at this point.

[-] TheRighteousMind@lemmy.world 15 points 11 months ago

There’s literally nothing left.

[-] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 7 points 10 months ago

Wow. I pretty much live under a rock, so I haven't been following this at all, really, apart from the odd headline.

It's horrific.

Survive the genocidal maniacs long enough eventually live long enough to see yourselves turn into genocidal maniacs.

[-] TokenBoomer@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Careful. You don’t want to get labeled as antisemitic. /s

[-] Track_Shovel@slrpnk.net 10 points 10 months ago

I was outraged when Hamas attacked Israel. Funny how the whole stance of 'people shouldn't kill eachother' is controversial these days

[-] cogman@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

Israel is sure showing how much they care about hostages by leveling as many buildings as possible. It's a good thing the hostages have plot armor.

[-] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

Watch out you'll be accused for backing only Israel with a statement like that lol.

[-] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

This took way too long for me to realize that they aren't the same areas before and after, but adjacent to each other.

[-] csfirecracker@lemmyf.uk 12 points 10 months ago

You can drag the line in the middle back and forth to show the whole place before or after.

[-] blanketswithsmallpox@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago
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