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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests_and_massacre

The protests lasted over a month; the massacre ended them in a flood of state-sponsored murder.

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[–] PugJesus@lemmy.world 134 points 1 month ago (9 children)

Dear Tankies, Wumaos, and assorted apologists:

If you want to be banned that badly, you can just ask instead of writing several paragraphs denying easily verified atrocities of historical note.

[–] Guns0rWeD13@lemmy.world 20 points 1 month ago
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[–] ayyy@sh.itjust.works 96 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (10 children)

Funny, just yesterday I had an .ml insisting to me that the protests ended peacefully and that any hint of violence is western propaganda.

Edit: just had another one saying the same crap but the mods nuked it.

[–] AI_toothbrush@lemmy.zip 58 points 1 month ago

These are disproved very fast by the fact that the chinese government doesnt want you to talk about it. Governments dont usually create whole censor campaigns around things that never happened. And before you say us this and us that, the us is also trying to cober things up and we also know a lot of those things because they get leaked. Talking about the us is a classic tankie move because it diverts your attention from the actual thing you were talking about, china. Just move to europe if you can and help in making a place that isnt an absolute shithole because sadly, currently europe is getting really close to that status.

[–] Rhoeri@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago

I’m guessing that person was one of the admins?

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago (3 children)

There was a reddit post of pictures of the massacre that were very detailed and graphic. Came out a few years ago. These were never before seen pictures that the redditor had kept for years and decided to release them. I wish I had had the for thought to save them cause I can't find that post again at all. Only things there now are the same pics you see everywhere else.

I have to say though, it is amazingly annoying that nearly any search for Tiananmen Square usually just returns the "tank man" pictures, as if that's all there was to it.

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[–] Losdostres@lemmy.world 66 points 1 month ago (3 children)

Have always been curious what happened to those two dancing.

[–] CheeryLBottom@lemmy.world 43 points 1 month ago

Same. Every time I see it, I think about that

[–] Plastic_Ramses@lemmy.world 17 points 1 month ago

Ground up into paste and scraped off the ground.

[–] wabafee@lemmy.world 3 points 1 month ago

In communist heaven.

[–] Duamerthrax@lemmy.world 57 points 1 month ago (5 children)

Post about China.

4 comments about China.

6 comments about the US.

[–] Silic0n_Alph4@lemmy.world 4 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

TIN SOLDIERS AND NIXON’S COMING

WE’RE FINALLY ON OUR OWN

THIS SUMMER I HEAR THE DRUMMING

FOUR DEAD IN OHIO 🎵

…I wonder if there’s a Chinese equivalent of CSNY who wrote a song about Tiananmen Square..?

[–] blazeknave@lemmy.world 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Never paid much mind to the second line, seeing it in writing is somehow so much more chilling.

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[–] yucandu@lemmy.world 48 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The working class threatened the elite's power.

[–] peoplebeproblems@midwest.social 14 points 1 month ago

Tale as old as time

True as it can be

Never even friends

Then somebody bends

Unsurprisingly

Just a little change

Smallest in the least

All a little scared

No one was prepared

Working v Elite

[–] ICastFist@programming.dev 48 points 1 month ago

What protest? There was no protest. That was clearly a popular demonstration of support for glorious leader. You lose 85,000 social credit!!

[–] Gammelfisch@lemmy.world 21 points 1 month ago (3 children)

I wonder if they survived the Tiananmen Square Massacre.

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[–] UnrepententProcrastinator@lemmy.ca 19 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The fact that any other pro-democracy protests in China from that point on can be counted on one hand is quite frightening. And no more "student protest" from what I can find...

China, among others, isn't great with letting their population progress away from the current power structure.

[–] buddascrayon@lemmy.world 6 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They are headed for decline anyhow. The corruption and boondoggles are still happening regardless of their media reporting on it and as a group the party was able to cover it's ass fairly well over the years but now their focus is on protecting one Pooh Bear shaped individual. Divided priorities is leading to some epically bad decisions.

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[–] RunawayFixer@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I have the suspicion that the CCP is very scared of knowledge of Tiananmen spreading, not because of the amount of victims (fairly low by Chinese standards and for how large the protests were), but rather that they are scared of the knowledge spreading of how much popular support the movement had and of how widespread it was. Most soldiers were also unwilling to attack civilians, so army divisions had to be brought in from far away and the soldiers had to be subjected to misinformation to goad them into attacking civilians.

This wiki article goes over what it took to suppress the protests: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/People%27s_Liberation_Army_at_the_1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests_and_massacre

Afterwards the CCP took steps to ensure that next time, the army would be more loyal to the government: officers who had no qualms with attacking civilians were rewarded/promoted, and those who had not executed their orders were purged. Dictators need immoral people to execute their orders.

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[–] GrammarPolice@lemmy.world 13 points 1 month ago

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[–] Azzu@lemm.ee 11 points 1 month ago (6 children)

Does anyone have good book recommendations on China's recent history? I wanna learn about the creation of the PRC, the cultural revolution, the '89 democracy movement. I have started reading the Wikipedia articles but it's just so dense and dry and I'm having trouble following it, I'm having trouble understanding the social state the described events happen in.

Was just wondering if there's good books that explain everything better.

[–] porcelainpitcher@lemmy.today 5 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Sit tight; I will ask my bro-in-law. He will, no doubt, have an answer. If not, he'll at least have a reason why it doesn't exist 😆 Recommendation incoming.

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