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[–] truthfultemporarily@feddit.org 12 points 1 day ago (2 children)

FYI cats need to eat meat to stay alive.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

They need an appropriate array of vitamins, nutrients, and calories to stay alive. The way they do this naturally is to eat meat, but it's not the meat specifically that they need.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 2 points 23 hours ago

you have to fortify the food but it's doable in principal. I'm assuming people are working on it by now

[–] dwzero@lemmy.ml 2 points 1 day ago (2 children)
[–] november@lemmy.vg 7 points 1 day ago

Because @truthfultemporarily@feddit.org heard the phrase "obligate carnivore" once and decided they didn't need to learn anything else about pet care.

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world -1 points 1 day ago (3 children)

They require meat proteins to live, plain and simple.

It's even law in some countries that classifies feeding cats a purely vegan diet is animal cruelty.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

meat proteins

Proteins are chains of amino acids. There are probably proteins specific to animal muscle, but misguided legislation notwithstanding it's the amino acids that are nutritionally required, not any specific protein configuration of those animos, and you can get those from a massive array of non-animal sources.

[–] over_clox@lemmy.world 6 points 1 day ago

Ah, well I guess today many of us are learning more details.

[–] fluffykittycat@slrpnk.net 2 points 23 hours ago (1 children)

well, there's also stuff like Taurine, so make sure you give your vegan cat some red bull from time to time

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 2 points 22 hours ago

My cat and I both have a diet of just redbull and edamame.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 1 points 22 hours ago

And of course law is always, strictly based of the latest available science.

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

taurine and arginine, to be more precise.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 4 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

Taurine and arginine are amino acids, building blocks for proteins, not proteins themselves. Animo acids are quite ubiquitous across life, not specific to any one type of life. eg Plants contain both taurine and arginine.

[–] merde@sh.itjust.works 1 points 20 hours ago

thanks for the additional information

i remember reading that plants can't supply enough taurin. Luckily it seems easy to synthesize (that's how we have redbull &c

[–] TootSweet@lemmy.world 9 points 1 day ago

It's a good thing popcorn is vegan.

[–] MiniMoose4Free@lemm.ee 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

One would think one against the cruel treatment of animals wouldn't keep a pet slave.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 5 points 22 hours ago (1 children)

Animal shelters are full of animals waiting to be adopted. They already exist in this world. Bringing an animal home is compatible with veganism and reduction is harm.

[–] grrgyle@slrpnk.net 3 points 16 hours ago (1 children)

I'm of this mind too, but then I wonder if I'm perpetuating pet ownership culture by "rescuing" all these byproducts of an unethical industry. Plus feels weird not to let them leave?? for their own good??? Like am I an abuser, idk, it's kinda fucked and I don't know how to feel about it.

[–] jol@discuss.tchncs.de 3 points 15 hours ago

That's a fair point. Like how I would not wear a leather jacket if given to me or from a second hand shop, because that's the product of murder.

You also can't set domesticated animals free in nature. They would wreck havoc in the environment.

[–] infinitesunrise@slrpnk.net 8 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Before I was vegan I had a girlfriend who wanted an "emotional support cat". I was uncomfortable with the idea and resisted for a while but eventually we got a rescue cat. Then we broke up and I kept the cat. I love her and she's sleeping in her bed next to me on my desk as I type this. I'm one of probably hundreds of likely scenarios where a vegan ends up with a pet despite agreement with the ethical issues.