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[–] gravitas_deficiency@sh.itjust.works 37 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

Oh I’m not fucking torn on it.

I think you should leave. You failed to rise to the occasion. You listened to your dipshit consultants and the party establishment and AIPAC and other moneyed interests instead of the people. There is no strike two. It’s one and done. Get the fuck out, Harris.

[–] angstylittlecatboy@reddthat.com 42 points 10 hours ago

Walz and AOC are the candidates worth talking about right now, because they're the ones showing leadership.

Go away, Kamala. And Biden, along with plenty of others.

[–] aramis87@fedia.io 45 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

If she's not going out now, fighting and making the case against and rallying the troops against Trump and fascism now, I'm not interested in her.

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 11 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

She's done nothing to help the people who supported her after her flop. I think she's cooked unless she comes back out of the grave in 4 years going "I'm actually cool now, right?!"

[–] meyotch@slrpnk.net 4 points 2 hours ago

A move we call “The Hillary”

[–] Goretantath@lemm.ee 14 points 9 hours ago

I'm voting Walz, he was the only other reason i was voting harris besides preventing the dictator.

[–] thisphuckinguy@lemmy.world 18 points 9 hours ago

Stay the fuck home. You’ve had your shot and failed.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 37 points 12 hours ago (1 children)

No. She wasn't a good candidate ANY time she ran.

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 25 points 11 hours ago* (last edited 11 hours ago) (1 children)

💯

She ran a terrible campaign. She COULD have won. She made material decisions around who to listen to and how to campaign that prevented it.

[–] pigup@lemmy.world 9 points 9 hours ago (1 children)

They ran a "flawless" campaign, they says

[–] TropicalDingdong@lemmy.world 4 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

Queen Latifa basically never endorses anyone.

[–] Asafum@feddit.nl 19 points 11 hours ago
[–] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 13 points 10 hours ago

No. What's going on, have you been hanging out with Hillary? Don't do more damage.

[–] ATDA@lemmy.world 21 points 12 hours ago* (last edited 12 hours ago) (7 children)

Just run a white dude. Sucks to say but that's where our imbecilic nation lays. A white dude that isn't 100 ffs

[–] Maeve@kbin.earth 3 points 11 hours ago

She could win if she'd get more in line with Porter policies. And keep them.

[–] dhork@lemmy.world 2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

Do you want President Gavin Newsom, then?

[–] eugenevdebs@lemmy.dbzer0.com 2 points 6 hours ago

Probably, look at the state of how Democrats are courting more republicans and giving every demand and cabinet pick to the Republicans.

[–] DoubleSpace@lemm.ee 2 points 11 hours ago

How about Buttigieg?

[–] akilou@sh.itjust.works 2 points 11 hours ago

White straight dude. Who isn't 100.

Secretary Mayor Pete would kill it but he could never get elected.

[–] Rivalarrival@lemmy.today 1 points 12 hours ago

Mark and/or Scott Kelly.

[–] CoachJZ@lemm.ee 0 points 12 hours ago

The sad thing is how right this is. It would take a tremendous amount of dumb luck for anyone other than a white dude to win in this political environment, as much as I'd like to see otherwise.

[–] deadkennedy@lemm.ee 0 points 12 hours ago (3 children)

it’s sad, but true.

The only way we are getting a woman in the White House is when MAGA convinces Ivanka to run.

[–] ragebutt@lemmy.dbzer0.com 8 points 9 hours ago* (last edited 9 hours ago)

This is such dumb rhetoric

How did Obama win? He ran on a platform of systemic change and healthcare reform. He made change his primary message and sent that down your throat. He didn’t deliver and he droned the shit of a bunch of kids, but that’s how he won

How did Kamala lose? Same way Hilary did. Not because they’re women. Because they ran shit neoliberal campaigns pandering to centrists and conservatives rather than trying to capture disillusioned workers who are desperate for change

Trump voters make up like 27% of voting eligible population

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 2 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

"Women can't win" is just an excuse to shut out AOC.

[–] deadkennedy@lemm.ee -1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Sure, if we ignore the historical data, a woman at the top of the Democratic ticket 100% has a real shot at winning the White House.

AOC is obviously one of the only people within the party who gives a damn, and is fighting - but putting her on the ticket isn’t going to end well at this moment in history. Voters are clearly terrified to not have an old white man in the Oval Office

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 1 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Sure, if we ignore the historical data, a woman at the top of the Democratic ticket 100% has a real shot at winning the White House.

During the past two times that a woman has run for president, it has been in a time in which people want change. In both cases, we've had a centrist candidate who represents the untenable status quo.

All the "a woman can't win" line does is hold back all women because democrats don't want a particular woman to be able to run.

There isn't anything more to it.

[–] deadkennedy@lemm.ee 1 points 39 minutes ago
[–] NotLemming@lemm.ee 4 points 11 hours ago

Not even then. Magas are trying to kick women out of positions in their own party etc. Some of them are talking openly about how only strong white men can lead.

[–] UltraGiGaGigantic@lemmy.ml 9 points 10 hours ago (1 children)

How about some electoral reform so we can vote outside the 2 party system without a spoiler effect.

How about a god damned primary?

Is this a purity test to far? I guess i just feel entitled to democracy, what can i say.

[–] WraithGear@lemmy.world 2 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

No party has a vested interest in bleeding political power to another. You have to take control of the Democratic party first

[–] Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world 4 points 7 hours ago

No party has a vested interest in bleeding political power to another.

And yet democrats keep capitulating to republicans.

[–] HarkMahlberg@kbin.earth 5 points 11 hours ago

Hot take: Walz/Harris might have won, but Harris/Walz just never stood a chance.

[–] TheReturnOfPEB@reddthat.com 6 points 12 hours ago

for leader of the peoples of the earth or of the space colonies ?