How are such agents alive? They are masked and ambush an innocent woman.
Where is the good guy with a gun?
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Not sure if you're being sarcastic (the internet has ruined my sarcasm detector), but the "good guy with a gun" is just a mythological figure invented by the gun lobby.
I'm not saying good people don't pack heat, just that the "good guy with a gun" is about as real as the Easter Bunny.
It was part sarcasm, exactly that the good guy with a gun is myth, and it's a myth that guns help defend against government overreach.
But there is also the fact that there is a LOT of gun crime in USA, and it is absolutely a risk IMO that these people could get shot by a vigilante.
But as you say, the good guys don't pack heat, so those that do are probably perfectly OK with this.
Ah, makes sense. I live in a red state, so I have to hear the "good guy with a gun" fallacy pretty much on the daily.
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The comment you responded to works either way.
It points out that the good guy with a gun is never actually there when needed, because its a fantasy character.
While at the same time, it actually wonders why not a single person opened shots at these masked men, in the most heavily armed country in the world.
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Calling player 2....
Get Ready, Player 2!
Where is the good guy with a gun?
In a coffee shop cosplaying as a tough guy.
We need the Black Panthers back.
You're suggesting a bystander pull a gun on ICE agents? How does that possibly go well for anyone?
Are they ICE agents?
There's a reason we, in the past, set up things like badges and uniforms to identify agents of the civil authority. It's so we know there is at least the pretense that the rights of the person being arrested will be respected and that they will go to a location where they can be checked on and communicate with friends/family and receive legal assistance for the charges brought against them.
Masked men with guns shouting "I'm definitely police" and bagging a woman is not that.
Their bosses pretending this is good enough is, at the very very very least, endangering federal agents unnecessarily. To say nothing of the rights of the people they're disappearing without the pretense of arresting them.
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Anyone can claim they are ICE and take a woman off the street. There's a reason why they need to legally identify themselves.
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Massachusetts does not have a stand your ground law. It would be illegal for anyone else to step in with a firearm. She is also not able to acquire a firearm under Massachusetts law.
Not having a stand your ground law just means you have a duty to escape/remove yourself from the situation if it is safe to do so. It does not eliminate your right to self defense or extend it to defense of another. If someone is being kidnapped, they reasonably could not escape.
That being said, I doubt it would be ruled in favor of a defendant in this case.
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It would be illegal for anyone else to step in with a firearm
It's also illegal for people in plain clothes to abduct women off the street.
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“We’re the police. Relax,” one of the men says
Fam I'd rather be kidnapped by a rando than the police. Relaxing is the last thing I would be doing while getting swarmed by pigs
Now this is what we should be out protesting in mass, among other things. Kidnapping people in broad daylight in unmarked uniforms, with masks on? That's not police, that's a bunch of Brownshirt thugs.
Yeah and this just sets a precedent for other people/groups... Wanna kidnap someone? Wear all black cover your faces and say you're the police...
My guess is they're hired security thugs and not actually ICE agents, hence why they're not showing a badge or uniform.
Which is 100% illegal
The Proud Boys are more like the Brownshirts: useful for the rise of fascism, but ultimately, a disposable group that was never going to get any real power under the regime. The way ICE is acting is more analogous to the SS or Gestapo: an unaccountable group of government goons that disappear undesirables and dissidents.
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Gestapo. America is Nazi now.
They did it in the 50s with communists. Probably before.
Dude... Totally insane. I was saying for years this Gestapo shit was going on and was only getting worse. Absolutely horrifying to see this happening in my country after all the patriotic bullshit they blew up our asses about how great the United States was as a kid. I'm ashamed to be an American.
It is no longer your country.
So we're getting the Black Panthers back together right?
I desperately want this to happen, but as a white dude Im in an awkward position
Russia 2.0.
Reich 4.0
Remember to stay strapped.
And if they try to kidnap you and don't identify themselves with badges you're free to kill them in self defense.
Every day my judgement that the US is already lost gets stronger. What a fucking shit show. i still got some colleagues who believe that the democracy is the US is not lost. Hard not to laugh in their faces.
Fuckin joke of a country, armed to the teeth for absolutely nothing besides shooting up schools and killing minorities.
Gestapo shit.
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