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I grew up in a rough household. We had holes punched into the walls, doors torn off the frames, my siblings and I saw regular abuse, and as a kid I constantly felt like I had to do things to keep the family held together.

I felt like I was treated by my parents as a servant. They constantly threw away anything I remotely liked, and continued stacking chores on me, especially those that weren't my own mess. They gave me the boot shortly before graduation, and long story short, I finally got a place for myself after years of effort.

I just can't shake this feeling though that things are painfully unfair. Like you escape hell after all these years, and the first thing expected from you is to find a job. I get it, you need to work to make money and pay the rent and bills but... why me? Why after all this time of putting up with the crap you have instead of being a kid are you just expected to step in line like everyone else when you never got that opportunity to find who you are and simply enjoy life for what it is.

I don't know, is this lazy? It's not that I don't want to work, but why can't I be a kid? Why can't I have some time to reclaim what all was taken from me and have some time to enjoy myself rather than grasp at random short memories I had before I was 5? Everyone else got it, why not me?

I don't know, am I just rambling about nothing?

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[–] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 40 points 3 months ago (3 children)

Who said life is fair? Like that place you finally obtained after years of searching? Want to keep it? Probably need money to pay for it. Being bitter about it won't change that fact so you need to figure out how to accept it and move on to improving your quality of life. Get an education/learn a trade, get a hobby or 2, make friends along the way and get some therapy from a professional to work on your trauma.

Choosing to be miserable instead of facing reality and working with it will only make things worse for you. Your misery will fester and grow. People will sense it and either avoid you or try to take advantage of it. Your past will dictate your future. I don't think you want that so good luck.

[–] Pudutr0n@feddit.cl 30 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

I get your frustration with this kind of attitude. I also felt like a reality check was warranted. However, when people are evading or grieving about something, even if being childish, in my experience it's usually better to validate their feelings first and then compassionately convey the harsh realities that they must face for their own sake and perhaps that of others.

Slapping people with the harsh truths they have trouble dealing with can do wonders for our frustration, but i think it's not the best approach for those who need some guidance.

An extreme version of this would be the father that yells at his child and tells him he will never amount to anything with this attitude, in frustration, as a response to the kid's depression. I was this kid.

Conflict tends to create resistance, you know? He was right too, but not a great way to convey his message.

I try to go with the following algorithm for this kind of situation: remind self of importance of compassion -> validate feelings -> convey perspective -> advise

Just my 2 cents. Hope you have a good week.

edit: some clarifications.

[–] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There's no frustration in my comment. Why would I even be frustrated? I'm speaking plainly about reality. Taking offense to that is a luxury OP doesn't have, and the faster they realize this the better their outcome will be. In my experience working with people in OP's position, trying to soften the message gets interpreted as platitudes, insecurity, and untrustworthyness which only gives them reasons to doubt or blow off the information. No bueno.

[–] Pudutr0n@feddit.cl 10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Well, I don't know. Maybe you're right. You just didn't offer any acknowledgement of the difficulties OP faced, which didn't sound like a picnic. People tend to have trouble finding empathy when they're frustrated, stressed or in any kind of distress really. This and some of the wording in your final paragraph is what gave me that impression.

But yeah, I don't know what's best or what you were feeling when you wrote it. You may have a better idea than I do for all I know and you're free to disregard my comment.

I'm not the advice police or anything. Just someone who thinks compassion helps communities grow healthier and was chipping in.

Either way, have a good week.

[–] Cephalotrocity@biglemmowski.win 3 points 3 months ago

Either way, have a good week.

and you as well.

[–] scrubbles@poptalk.scrubbles.tech 5 points 3 months ago

Spot on. We all have our own demons. It's up to us to overcome them and make a life for ourselves. Life is not fair, some get it better, so e have it worse, but it's for each of us to conquer ourselves

Life is learning that no one looks out for you, no one is going to swoop in and make it easy. Nobody wants to go to work, but we all do anyway. I'd love to take a year off, but then I'd probably go homeless, so I don't. I can wish it all I want, but it isn't going to happen.

So, I could be resentful that others may have it easier, or I can enjoy my days off how I want and put in my time as I go. C'est la vie.

[–] DonaldJMusk@lemmy.today -3 points 3 months ago
[–] JeSuisUnHombre@lemm.ee 28 points 3 months ago

No, it's not wrong. But you're not allowed to take truly replenishing time off in this capitalist system. It's not just unfair, it's unsustainable and it's on the way to collapsing. Hopefully we can create a better system in the rubble. Until then, don't let it break you.

[–] surewhynotlem@lemmy.world 26 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You can enjoy yourself at any age. What you might be missing is the feeling of being fully cared for and therefore carefree.

I've never found a way to replicate that as an adult. If you find it, let me know

[–] Rednax@lemmy.world 3 points 3 months ago

But when we tried to get grandma into such a state of being taken care for, it was suddenly considered abuse (by her definition).

[–] otp@sh.itjust.works 23 points 3 months ago

Even people who had great childhoods often spend "the other 8 hours" trying to be kids again.

You either gotta do it like the rest of us and find time for enjoyment between work and errand, or find a way to make money off your "adult childhood". Neither is easy, but you've been through a lot, so you're obviously capable of doing difficult things.

It might help if you schedule time for it. That way, you can say, "On Tuesday, I'm going to do these things I missed out on as a kid from 7 to 9pm". And then you play. Or whatever.

You need this, and everyone needs it, so don't feel bad about scheduling it. You're helping yourself heal.

[–] dingus@lemmy.world 14 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Maybe you might want to try out a different perspective. Because weirdly, being an adult can give you the freedom of being more childlike.

Think of it this way...as a child, no matter what kind of home life you had, abusive or not, you had to go to school for much of the day. As an adult, the same thing applies. Except now you'll be at work instead of school. So realistically, that part is actually the same if that makes sense. The time each takes out of your day is roughly equivocal.

Ok. So then where does that take us? The time spent during work or school is similar. So now the real differences are going to come outside of work/school.

As a kid, what happened outside of school? Your life was hell. You didn't get to play and do kid things the way a normal kid does.

Aa an adult, what happens outside of work? Believe it or not, you can do whatever the fuck you want.

That's right.

Want ice cream for dinner? Fuck it, you're an an adult and can do what you want. Want to buy some toys and play with them? Fuck it, you're an adult and can do what you want. Want to climb a tree? Fuck it, you're an adult and can do what you want.

Use the now to live the childhood you didn't have. Difference is instead of spending your non play time at school, you'll just be at work instead, earning your own money to do whatever the fuck you want. :)

Best of luck.

[–] Zorsith@lemmy.blahaj.zone 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The downside is there is no summer/winter break. I'm at the point that I'm severely burnt out; i have had exactly 1 vacation in the 10 years since i got out of school, and it was a little over a week long several years ago.

My paid time off sits unused because it pays out if i quit or lose my job, and i will need that cash. I desperately could use a solid month off without being penalized for "existing while not outputting labor", and it most likely just isn't going to happen.

Something to think about, though of course do whatever makes the most sense for your circumstances: what's better - maintaining your current pace of work, without meaningful breaks, in a way that only further pushes you into burnout and risks impacting job performance to the point you could be let go for cause. Or, using your PTO, which is part of your compensation package, to take breaks and at least try to get some downtime to mitigate burnout, which generally has a positive impact on job performance and with that reduces the probability of being let go with cause?

Not going to lie and say you couldn't get blindsided and screwed either way, but with very few exceptions I always think not taking your PTO is a mistake.

Will acknowledge I don't know your circumstances and don't mean any offense. If what you're doing makes sense from a long-term survival perspective, then do what makes sense.

[–] steeznson@lemmy.world 2 points 3 months ago

The purpose of school is to get you used to going to a grey building with people you hate every day

[–] stoy@lemmy.zip 13 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Ok, it sounds like you haven't had the opportunity to process your childhood trauma, and yes, based on what you wrote it is a trauma.

I recommend going to therapy to help you process and sort out your thoughts.

You were robbed, robbed of your childhood, sadly, you can't change that, but you can change it so that you don't get robbed off of your adulthood as well.

[–] RBWells@lemmy.world 13 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I didn't enjoy being a kid at all, but being an adult I do like, don't mind working because they pay me.

"Everyone else got it" is a stretch.

It does sound like you are carrying a lot of trauma, I don't want to minimize that, but if you are able bodied, can see and hear and move and think, you are ahead of a lot of people. If you live in a developed nation, you are ahead of a lot of people. I don't think even a majority of kids get the idealized childhood you think they do.

If you have no kids or obligations - what I did was get a lot of roommates to get living cost low and yeah, did just work a minimal job and hang out for a few years before sort of getting more serious about work. Never did the career ladder thing but did get a good job and I can say with absolute honesty - it got better.

[–] Fredthefishlord@lemmy.blahaj.zone 6 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago)

Being the bottom rung is nice because nothing is my responsibility at work., except my own job.

[–] MuskyMelon@lemmy.world 11 points 3 months ago

Pack up and/or get rid of all your stuff and go travel the world. Go discover new places, new people, new cultures. Learn new languages, new skills, new customs. That's probably the closest experience to being a child again as an adult.

[–] DeuxChevaux@lemmy.world 9 points 3 months ago

I understand your thinking. OTOH, if you don't carry your own weight, you make someone else do it for you, and put them through the same hell you've been trying to escape. That's not fair, either.

If I were you, I would try to take some time off, travel the world on the cheap, and find my feet, maybe even make peace with myself.

Good luck!

[–] spankmonkey@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

You can have a job and still do the things you think you would have done as a child. It isn't like 1/3 of childhood days aren't taken up by school, not even counting homework.

I had so much more time as a young adult than I had in school. Except for summer break I guess.

[–] lath@lemmy.world 8 points 3 months ago

Personal opinion here, I think the world is inherently unfair. Fairness is something we give to ourselves and each other, but the world itself only has its natural laws to follow.

If you can find some childhood happiness even as you grow older, you should enjoy it. It is a right we all have or are entitled to demand.

I'd say the typical childhood is a fantasy, not everyone is the same. There's plenty of suffering and neglect to go around and I'm sure you'll find plenty of friends here who have gone through similar things.

It's good to ramble and relieve the pent-up stress once in a while, but also to seek a way of resolving the issues to stop them from reoccurring.

[–] the_q@lemm.ee 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Man, most of these replies are just the results of living in capitalism and the brainwashing it imposes.

"Work cause you have to... Unless you don't cause you're rich!"

The issue is, what is the immediate alternative? You can simplify your life to minimize the amount of resources needed, you can find work that feels pleasant/meaningful enough that it doesn't always feel like a slog, you can have other people subsidize your lifestyle by working themselves (cool if said people are cool with it/there's some mutually beneficial exchange - usually involving domestic work, which is still work -, not cool if it's pure leeching). But ultimately, unless you come from wealth, either you or someone working for your benefit needs to work to get resources needed for living.

It doesn't have to be this way forever, but this is reality right now. Heck, this isn't even unique to capitalism - even in a socialist society, people still need to work, they just (theoretically) gain more of the benefits of that labour than in capitalist societies.

[–] remon@ani.social 8 points 3 months ago

If you can get by without a job, go for it.

[–] Contemporarium@lemm.ee 7 points 3 months ago

Most people don’t want to work.

[–] jordanlund@lemmy.world 7 points 3 months ago

Freedom comes at a cost, what you want is for other people to shoulder the burden and take care of you and that's not an option beyond a certain age, and having someone do that for you also comes at a cost.

Your basic needs will be met either in the military or in prison, but that's not freedom.

You can get a job and pay for your basic needs on your own, which while also not freedom, is still better than the military or prison. :)

You can enroll in college and have food/shelter taken care of, but if you don't have a job to pay for it, you'll bury yourself in debt, paying for your freedom now, with debt chains later.

[–] cheers_queers@lemm.ee 7 points 3 months ago

i come from a similar place, and while I've been on my own for 10 years now, the crushing grief of my lost childhood has only intensified. now, the whole country i live in is trying to force me back into the same life i struggled SO HARD to escape

I'm also severely depressed and have a painful disability that i have to work through at a manual labor job. all i want, all i need, is rest. but i will probably die working, and so i grieve for my past as well as my future.

sometimes it feels like i will never truly live, and that's incredibly painful to deal with. dont listen to people telling you to stop being bitter, i know it isnt like that at all.

try to find an understanding community, as well as a trauma-informed (very important) therapist. you may never get rid of the trauma, but hopefully find ways to cope.

[–] CheeseToastie@lazysoci.al 7 points 3 months ago

You got a rough start mate and I'm really sorry you didn't get the loving childhood you deserved. You should never have suffered this, and you're starting on the back foot but held to the standards everyone else is. It's unfair, and it's ok to feel that.

I never got a childhood either, so I claim it now. Things like cuddly toys, fun snacks give it to me now. I also get parented in !dadforaminute@lemmy.world and in other ways, that helps.

[–] antlion@lemmy.dbzer0.com 6 points 3 months ago

Nobody is judging you anymore. You’re free to live how you want to. Most people struggle to find a balance between working and life. So you’re not alone there.

I met this traveling nurse who spends fall, winter and spring working, and then spends summer traveling and hiking in the mountains. I met a teacher who does the same. There are many seasonal workers who put in a lot of work in a burst and then take time to themselves - firefighters, wine grape harvest, ski lift/resort.

Keep an open mind, and live simply. Keep few possessions which add a lot of value to your life. Think of what you want to do, then figure out how to get there. At least then if you are working a boring job, it is moving you toward your own goal.

[–] Pudutr0n@feddit.cl 5 points 3 months ago

You're not rambling about nothing, and yes, you got dealt shit cards by the croupier of life. Lots of people have it easier in many regards. I can understand your frustration and resistance. You got robbed of your childhood and that sucks.

However, life is unfair and life is relentless and that ain't changing anytime soon. If you don't find a job/income source within a reasonable time frame, you'll be back in a different kind of hell.

I understand you are grieving for your childhood, but sometimes your material situation becomes more urgent than your feelings. How urgent finding a job is depends on your personal finances and security nets available.

I suggest getting a job for your own good. Life is unfair but all we can do is adapt and look out for ourselves and those we care about.

If you play your cards right career-wise, you might be able to dedicate some time to self discovery now or more later on, when you have financial stability.

Good luck to you, friend.

[–] Paradachshund@lemmy.today 4 points 3 months ago

Money is unavoidable but you don't have to do a typical career. Maybe you could try one of those English teaching jobs overseas, or be a nomad doing odd jobs here and there and traveling around. Lots of paths out there, and some might be more care free than a typical 9-5.

Have you considered becoming a student? You might be able to get financial aid. It might not cover 100%, but you'd get to be around young people also discovering themselves.

You definitely didn't deserve what you got. I hope you can find a path that feels at least a little more like what you want to be doing.

[–] aubeynarf@lemmynsfw.com 4 points 3 months ago

sure you can do that but how will you shelter and feed yourself?

[–] leaky_shower_thought@feddit.nl 3 points 3 months ago

i think you can still be a child. now that you're free, you can actually do whatever you want.

but also consider that lost time is already lost and if you want to still be a child, adult you also wants to keep moving forward.

...or not, again, up to you.

[–] burgermeister@lemm.ee 2 points 3 months ago

One way to measure success as an adult can be how much spare money you have and how much spare time your job gives you. In the last few years I have finally gotten into a position where I can afford to pursue some extra hobbies, buy the latest video game, and take the occasional vacation. I feel like I finally am at the place where I wanted to be as a child, but it's even cooler because I can drink and make my own decisions.

[–] libra00@lemmy.world 1 points 3 months ago

First let me say that I'm sincerely very sorry about what you went through as a kid. No one should have to.

But the answer is because living things require a constant energy input to be sustained, whether that energy comes from chasing mammoths down or from the groceries you buy with the salary from your office job. It's not fair, to anyone, ever, but you have the same choice everyone else has: accept that life isn't free and get on with it because it's better than the alternative, or.. the alternative. I'm going to offer some advice, but it's not the 'help me out today' kind, it's the 'stick this in the back of your head and let it steep for a while' kind.

So much of one's experience in life comes down to attitude. If that sounds stupid it's only because you don't have enough life experience to recognize that you get to decide what things mean to you. Whether this is an unfair burden that you shouldn't have to bear or a miraculous opportunity that shouldn't be wasted is entirely - and I do mean entirely - up to you. When someone tells you to 'cultivate a positive attitude' this is what they mean. Decide for yourself whether you're staying or going (and I recommend staying because it's the only option that will let you change your mind later) and, as the kids say, get busy doin' it. But if you're staying, you will really have a much better time of it if you let go of this sense that the world owes you anything, that life is unfair, or that you have been singled out for undue suffering. Take it from someone who has been down that path, it's a tough row to hoe, and you only make it worse for yourself by pushing people away with that anger. This isn't something that will happen overnight, but I promise that developing a positive attitude will make a difference.

If you want to speed the process along a bit, I recommend reading some existentialist philosophy, it can really help give you a sense of perspective. I particularly like Camus, the Myth of Sisyphus in particular was a real eye-opener for me. Most people think of existentialism as something scary to avoid, but honestly once I really started to understand it I found it a comfort.

And if you ever just need someone to talk to who's been where you are now, don't hesitate to DM me. I know people just say that, but I mean it sincerely.

[–] Opinionhaver@feddit.uk 0 points 3 months ago

Most people don't want to work - they just have different reasons for why.

Personally I'd take the stoic approach: if you can't change how things are so the best this is to accept it rather than resist.

[–] DonaldJMusk@lemmy.today -4 points 3 months ago

I get it, you need to work to make money and pay the rent and bills but… why me?

Because that's what everybody has to do. You don't get to get out of it just because you don't like your circumstances.

[–] Kit@lemmy.blahaj.zone -5 points 3 months ago

You either work your way through life or you leech off of others. Those are the options. There are kids who grew up in war zones, sleeping through air raids and watching those around them die. They still work. There are kids who were in and out of foster care, kids who watched their parents OD, kids who were SA'd every night, kids who slept on the street. Few people have had the ideal childhood you're describing. Those people still work. They get into therapy. They make something of their life.

Quit making excuses for your laziness. Get a job.