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[-] D3FNC@hexbear.net 48 points 10 months ago

Israel just openly doing a war crime 100% speedrun just daring anyone to say anything that hasn't been filtered through an entire PR department

The level of arrogance on display in not realizing how devastating the consequences of this open genocide will be makes Americans look meek and humble by comparison.

[-] Unaware7013@kbin.social 18 points 10 months ago

I was going to speak up against the murder of civilians in an open air prison by an apartheid state, but I didn't want to be labeled an antisemite.

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[-] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 7 points 10 months ago

Simple, we change the definition of antisemite from "discrimination against all jew" to "strong criticism against far right Israel government who commit war crime for decades".

[-] Ordoabchao@kbin.social 16 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

They have the full backing of the US to commit this genocide, so...

[-] Zehzin@lemmy.world 39 points 10 months ago

Maybe the real terrorism was the friends we made along the way

[-] Annoyed_Crabby@monyet.cc 24 points 10 months ago

Ahh shit, run guys, there's Hamas hidden in that article.

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 20 points 10 months ago

Antisemitism is a idea, ideas can live in the minds of people, people reporting from Palestine are antisemitic, therefore killing the journalist was a valid military target.

Even though the journalist, an Arab, is a Semite....

Semite - Wiktionary 2. A member of any of a number of peoples of ancient southwestern Asia and East Africa such as the Akkadians, Assyrians, Arameans, Phoenicians, Canaanites, Hebrews, Arabs, Aksumites, and Ethiopians.

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 18 points 10 months ago

People are dying. Let's not get carried away with nonsense. When people use the term "antisemitism" they are using the modern defition to mean prejudice against Jewish people. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antisemitism

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 6 points 10 months ago

Let's also not get carried away with fervor. People are dying. Being against Israel's overreaction, genocide, and colonialism is not being antisemitic.

[-] themeatbridge@lemmy.world 7 points 10 months ago

Agreed, but neither should we ignore the large contingent of actual bigots who will use these atrocities to advance their respective ignorant and hate-based agendas. There is real anti-semitism and islamophobia pervading the international conversations.

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world 0 points 10 months ago

Indeed, but the corporate media and governments seem to be taking Israel's side, so I feel the more accurate balancing point is to focus on the humanity of Palestinians. They are truly powerless being toyed with by Israel while Hamas ensures that the generalized punishment from Israel (a war crime) will continue.

[-] Brunbrun6766@lemmy.world 11 points 10 months ago

Those self hating semites

[-] erranto@lemmy.world 10 points 10 months ago

Everything can be justified using illogical mental gymnastics.

[-] agent_flounder@lemmy.world 1 points 10 months ago

Like Ben Franklin said (paraphrased) rational thinking is for rationalizing bullshit.

[-] alvvayson@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

Ah, nice to see wiktionary hasn't been edited.

Articles on Wikipedia are heavily edited so that anti-semitism can only mean anti-Jew in Wikipedia. Terms such as Semitic people are called obsolete.

Wikipedia really gets politicized.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 19 points 10 months ago

Articles on Wikipedia are heavily edited so that anti-semitism can only mean anti-Jew in Wikipedia.

When was the last time that term meant anything but anti-Jew in English? Yeah I'm aware what the word Semite means. Sometimes word meanings change. Pretty sure anti-semite has referred to people who hate Jews since many decades ago.

Is there a reason you're so salty about this particular fairly old shift in language? Do tell why.

[-] grue@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago

Is there a reason you’re so salty about this particular fairly old shift in language? Do tell why.

In a pre-WWII European context (where the only relevant Semites were Jews), letting the meaning shift was one thing.

In this Middle Eastern context (with two relevant groups of Semites), it's entirely different: it's an attempt to "other" and dehumanize Arabs by denying their shared Semitic heritage and instead claiming it exclusively for Jews. It's a fundamentally dishonest definition that facilitates DARVO tactics.

[-] TrickDacy@lemmy.world 3 points 10 months ago

it's an attempt to "other" and dehumanize Arabs

So using a term the way it's been used for decades is suddenly malicious if we change contexts.

No, I'm not buying that at all.

[-] MotoAsh@lemmy.world -1 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I mean, if you generalize it THAT far, I'm sure there are many terms that become malicious. The current bad words weren't always bad words in some cases (thinking more like the odd slurs like "idiot" than the tried and true cuss words).

In fact, wasn't f*ggot ONLY a term for bundles of sticks used for tinder until it became fashionable to burn gay people like witches?

[-] jet@hackertalks.com 7 points 10 months ago

Redefining words has been a political tool since forever. But they do have meanings, and a history, so if someone uses an archaic term... you can use the term right back at them.

[-] Epicurus0319@sopuli.xyz 5 points 10 months ago* (last edited 10 months ago)

I both laughed and cried at the same time. What is it with both belligerents in this war and killing the other side’s journalists? (One of the most dishonorable and dirty things you could do)

[-] Scubus@sh.itjust.works 2 points 10 months ago

Careful, Isreal might attack you for that opinion.

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