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Who cares about all the people he'll hurt along the way amiright? ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I'll say it again, but "Dessalines" is legit in competition for the most cringe person on the Internet. Not only does he say shit like this all the time, but he's draped himself in the moniker of an actual freedom fighter who overcame actual adversity to liberate actual people. Truly, the struggle from his air conditioned computer chair is comparable.
He’s one of the original Lemmy creators right?
Opressors need to look like they aren't
Says they dislike trump more than Democrats do then proceeds to explain why they don't dislike trump more than Democrats do.
That checks out.
Tankies love fascists
Lmao the rise of tankies in this space is perfectly timed with China's troll farm campagn to become the new boot on the neck of the world while the US deals with their fascist problem that Russia, China's ally, inflicted on the US.
As an American socialist who has to deal with the collapse into fascism there is no material reason for me to advocate for accelerationism
Maybe if we already had a basis for socialist revolution to save us it would make sense. But there isn't, collapse just means something worse is coming.
So socialists from other countries are cheerleading the collapse of us imperialism, which is objectively fair. But I also have to wonder how wise that is considering what I said above, the US isn't collapsing into a peaceful socialist state but instead a war hungry fascist state which does not put an end to imperialism but rather makes it more direct and brutal
Either way, tankies seem to only admire theory and countries that say they're socialist but actually aren't. If your idea of socialism does not expand the definition of democracy to the workplace all the way up, with recall of representatives where direct democracy isn't pragmatic, I don't think it's even worth considering as an alternative.
unironically Germany KPD supporting NSDAP to their rise be like
Don't worry, plenty of tankies on here say "Thalmann did nothing wrong" unironically.
And tankies looove the death camps.
They want their own, but their reasons are so much better, believe them. Or else they'll put you in one.
As a non American, I gotta admit that I enjoy seeing America crumbling down like this. Their ideology of unfettered capitalism has done so much wrong in the world in so many ways the past 60 years or so. From enabling coups in many countries to establish control over resources with violent pro-American dictators, starting wars over oil, ruining the environment and gaining control over the world economy, eroding people's working conditions and rights and just overall establishing this shitty system where we work two jobs and can't even afford a home or plan for a family or a decent retirement.
You don't have to be a tankie to admit the U.S. has been a shitty ally and overall a toxic country. It's about time the rest of the world dumped their ass to find someone better who will respect them.
Hopefully new alliances will form between countries with better, more progressive and peaceful values, aiming on working together for a better world.
I'm just hoping Canada and Europe can take the lead on this.
I gotta admit that I enjoy seeing America crumbling down like this.
The fuck is the matter with you? The CIA overthrew some governments in the 70s and now you "enjoy" seeing the crumbling of what little right trans people had? You enjoy seeing the crumbling of habeus corpus where students are being kidnapped off the street by plainclothes officers? Do you enjoy seeing the crumbling of due process and the people deported to El Salvadorian prions for autism awareness tattoos?
You don’t have to be a tankie to admit the U.S. has been a shitty ally and overall a toxic country.
Even if your assessment were accurate, and it's just patently, obviously not, enjoying sitting back and watching a government openly bully trans teenagers because the US helped Isreal or didn't provide the aid to Ukraine you would have preferred (or whatever!), is just a horrible, horrible, ignorant and harmful perspective. If you truly cared about "progressive and peaceful values" values, you would be advocating for the US to change, not cheering it's "crumbling".